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Discussion in 'Social Media' started by Anon220806, Jan 20, 2020.

  1. Anon220806
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

    I posted this originally in amongst another thread so tight have been overlooked.
    Anybody seen this new Facebook Portal technology? We were looking around Currys and stumbled across it.

    https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/smart...tv-from-facebook-with-alexa-10199895-pdt.html

    It’s like your relatives (or your gf / fiancee) in the Philippines are in the same room... We saw it today and marvelled at how things change.

    It struck me as a must have for new British Filipino relationships at the least but maybe not so great of it meant the mother in laws was as good as next door or even virtually in the room.
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  2. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    It's an interesting system John but Zuckerberg is never getting any of my money not ever :D
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  3. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    i think i prefer to write a letter.
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  4. Anon220806
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

    :D
  5. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    I hate Facebook.
    Coming off it made me feel so much better.
    It all seemed very childish and the Cambridge Analytica data scandal was the last straw for me.
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  6. John Stevens
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    John Stevens Active Member

    I hate Facebook but have use Facebook messager for the girlfriend used to use what's app till face book brought it out so I just stick to Instagram.
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  7. Aromulus
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    Aromulus The Don Staff Member

    I do use Facebook.
    Not regularly, but just to keep up to date to what my sprogs are up to.
    I confess that sometime I do post a few things myself, so that they know I am alright. Two way street, kind of thing...
    I use their Messenger service very often tho. Which is outstanding.
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  8. DavidAlma
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    DavidAlma Well-Known Member

    I'm on FB regularly. It's a great way to share news, photos, events etc with friends and family the other side of the world. Whats with the aversion to it?
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  9. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Like anything FB is all about using it correctly.
  10. Anon220806
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

    I use Facebook but only in a limited way to stay in touch with our Filipino friends / relatives. My wife uses it a lot. If the portal technology had been around when she was in the Philippines and me here, then we may well have used it.
  11. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    we both use FB a lot--more for messenger than posting trivia.
    i'm on several hobby-related groups. some are very helpful.

    in fact--i have 2 accounts--one genuine and one fake that i use to banter with other idiots.
  12. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    It's a long read, David, but this is useful:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Facebook
  13. DavidAlma
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    DavidAlma Well-Known Member

    Thanks Aposhark, but I lost interest at...........The use of Facebook can have psychological effects, including feelings of jealousy[7][8] and stress,[9][10] a lack of attention,[11] and social media addiction, in some cases comparable to drug addiction.[12][13]
  14. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    These things have been noticed for a long time now, David.
    It was such an unsatisfactory website for me.
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  15. PorkAdobo
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    Agreed. Some people (a disproportionate amount being Filipino) share far too much online.

    Out in the province, they have *finally* been blessed with wifi which is great. Was costing a fortune doing phone calls with Viber.

    Moma is not tech savvy. These things must be bewildering to her. Courtesy of her youngest son, she got a shiny new FB profile to communicate with us in the UK.

    All the FB etiquette is an alien concept to her and her experiences give an insight as to how creepy the world can be for vulnerable women. Within days of opening her account, she had hundreds of friend requests from men in India, Pakistan and Saudi. I have no idea how they found her. She had her real life photo and this mid-50s old woman is hardly the hottest thing online. Didn’t stop all the requests coming through. Anyone who knows the first thing about FB would just block all these losers. Unfortunately, Moma accepted them all! Messages started and these guys are asking this grandmother to open her legs on webcam. At this point, I logged into her account and saw the messages. These childish and pathetic messages in pidgin English. The mind boggles that grown men can behave like this online. We sanitised everything and thought nothing more of it.

    However, I think some of these men must have been offended at Moma for not doing the deed on webcam and reported her. Her account was deleted by FB. Worry not, youngest son made her a new one. It gets deleted within a few days. Variations of name, fake pictures etc. FB caught them all. She’s gone through at least 20 accounts in the past few months.

    A couple of weeks ago, she dropped her cellphone and had to get a new one. It is only now that her latest account has been up more than a few days before Zuckerberg zaps it. I’m not clever enough to understand all these things, but I’m guessing that FB must have been to recognise log-ins from Moma’s old cellphone which automatically triggered the account for deletion. Touch wood, the drama is over. I don’t know if FB appreciate how vital they have become for people to communicate as it was so frustrating finding anyone who could help. I even DM’d Nick Clegg on Twitter, but he seems to have abandoned that platform.

    We are now concerned with one of Miss R’s cousins who is 14/15-ish. Extremely pretty girl. As with lots of teenagers in her social circle, a day is not complete without a dozen selfie uploads to FB. She thinks I’m just an interfering old tool who is living in the past when we ask her to look at her privacy settings. Maybe she’ll be able to fleece some of these Saudi pervs for a few thousand pesos? That’s the only saving grace I can think of when it comes to her and her prolific selfie taking!
  16. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    My wife was inundated by men from the same countries too, PorkAdobo :erm:
    I suppose our mens' world is not often privy to all the good and bad attention that the fairer sex has to put up with.
    I don't ask, perhaps it is better.
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Just about confirms the need not only to use it correctly but are capable of understanding and constraint, not always easy with the peer pressure on today's social society.
    There are indeed some sad preditors in the world in all walks of life.
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  18. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    As a point on this whenever my wife and daughters and I suspect the rest of her family either here or in the Philippines uses the PC sthey do it all in "incognito windows" and certainly dont get some of the spam I get. For instance I was looking for hotels on line and when I opened my facebook there were adverts for hotels in the same areas I had been looking being advertised on my face book,asked wife to look at hotels incognito and no adverts appeared
  19. oss
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    They can identify an individual browser whether or not you are using "In Private" or "Incognitto" or any equivalent in any other browser, the technique is called Browser Fingerprinting it comes in Single Browser Fingerprinting (SBF) and Cross Browser Fingerprinting (CBF) flavours and can only be blocked by blocking JavaScript but if you block JavaScript you have basically blocked the internet these days good luck browsing anything with JavaScript disabled :)

    Google and Facebook and anyone else doing advertising or with malicious intent can and are using the information they can pick up through SBF and CBF to track you and there is next to nothing you can do to avoid it.

    A key part of SBF is the creation of an invisible window on which they render characters and images tiny differences in each physical computer show up in the way the images and text are rendered and that rendering is sufficient to generate a fingerprint specific to your device that is enough to uniquely identify you on the whole planet, combining the fingerprint with other information that can be found on your machine and they can pretty much work out who you actually are.

    They can even analyse how audio files are handled by your soundcard again generating a fingerprint for your hardware, this all applies to phones, tablets and PC's.

    What you describe using "In Private" features certainly works up to a point but it's a mistake to think that it really gives you any actual real privacy.

    The only browser that provides some protection against all this is Tor and even it is vulnerable to an attack called uXDT ultrasound cross-device tracking that's been around since 2012, some advertisers can and do broadcast ultrasound on tv adverts or from a honey pot website that you visit using Tor, your phone can pick up the signal that is broadcast if it is active at the same time and report back to the people broadcasting the ultrasound, this can be used to track your viewing habits and browsing habits.
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  20. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    As usual, your replies on the techie front are exhaustive and thorough but you don't exactly help our anti-Big Brother feelings, Jim.
    :eek::oops::eek::eek:

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