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Polish Schengen visa

Discussion in 'Europe Wide Visa Discussions' started by Heathen, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. Heathen
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    Heathen Active Member

    Hi guys, Im looking to spend a week in Gdansk, Poland at the end of May, do we need to apply for a visa for my wife ?.

    Travel facilitations for family members of an EU/EEA nationals - Directive 2004/38/EC

    If you are a family member of an EU/EEA national, please note that, on the basis of Directive 2004/38/EC and relevant Polish regulations[1]you might enjoy travel facilitations.

    For the purpose of the Directive 2004/38/EC family member means:




      • the spouse[2]
      • the direct descendants who are under the age of 21 or are dependants and those of the spouse
      • the dependent direct relatives in the ascending line and those of the spouse
        To enjoy travel facilitations, you need to be accompanying or joining the EU/EEA citizen, whose family you are a member of, in Poland.
    You do not need an entry visa to enter Poland if you meet all three following requirements:






      • You are a family member of the EU/EEA citizen (as defined above)
      • You are travelling together with the EU/EEA citizen to Poland or joining the EU/EEA citizen in Poland (whose family member you are, as defined above)
      • You are a holder of UK Residence Card of a Family Member of an EEA National

        Please, make sure you hold the original of the document proving the family ties with the EU/EEA citizen (e.g. marriage or birth certificate) when crossing the Polish border.
  2. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Paul
    I think you will need one!
    I think the above applies to all countries in the EU excluding the UK as we operate outside the schengen area for our spouses but inside for us UK people
    Worth researching though
  3. PorkAdobo
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    PorkAdobo Active Member

    My understanding (could easily be wrong) is that a Filipino could travel as a tourist to the EU so long as being accompanied by their spouse.

    Timatic link here, system used by all airlines to establish if a passenger complies with entry requirements.

    https://cms.olympicair.com/timatic/webdocsI/spdbmainv.html

    National Philippines (PH) /Residence United Kingdom (GB)
    Destination Poland (PL)
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    Poland (PL)

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    Passport required.
    - Passports and other documents accepted for entry must be
    valid for a minimum of 3 months beyond the period of
    intended stay.

    Visa required, except for Family members of a national of an

    EEA Member State or Switzerland, with a residence permit
    issued by the United Kingdom or a passport containing a
    Permanent Residence sticker issued by the United Kingdom to

    family members of a Union Citizen, for a maximum stay of 90

    days. They must travel with or travel to join the Union
    Citizen.


    - Information on Schengen visas For details, click here
    Minors:
    - Pupils For details, click here
    Additional Information:

    - Family members of a national of an EEA Member State or

    Switzerland, with a residence permit issued by United
    Kingdom are allowed a total stay of 90 days in a period of
    180 days.
    - Valid visas in full, invalidated travel documents are
    accepted if accompanied by a new travel document.
    Warning:
    - Passengers and airline crew arriving directly or indirectly
    from China (People's Rep), Hong Kong (SAR China), Italy or
    Macao (SAR China) must fill-in the "health part" of the
    general declaration form provided by the cabin crew. The

    forms must be submitted to the Public Health Authorities at

    point of entry.
    - Passengers and airline crew on board of a flight where even
    one passenger is traveling directly or indirectly from China
    (People's Rep.), Hong Kong (SAR China), Italy or Macao (SAR
    China) must fill-in the "health part" of the general
    declaration form provided by the cabin crew. The forms must

    be submitted to the Public Health Authorities at point of

    entry.
    - BREXIT: On 31 January 2020 the United Kingdom withdrew from
    the European Union (EU) and ceased to be a member of the
    European Economic Area (EEA). A transition period of 11

    months was agreed; therefore, entry regulations remain

    unchanged until 31 December 2020, i.e., regulations related

    to the EU and the EEA, also apply to the United Kingdom.
    - Schengen "C" type visas must be valid for the visited
    Schengen Member State. This is specified in the "valid for"
    field of the visa.
    - Union Citizens are nationals of an EEA Member State,

    Switzerland or the United Kingdom, who moved from the
    country of nationality to reside in another EEA Member State

    or in the United Kingdom.
    The visa exemption for family members of a Union Citizen

    applies if the residence permit is issued by:
    -- the country of residence, which must be different from
    the country of nationality of the Union Citizen, or

    -- the country of nationality of the Union Citizen, if the

    Union Citizen and family member returned within 6 months

    after departing from the country of residence.

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  4. Aromulus
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    Aromulus The Don Staff Member

    For spouses from outside the EU, as Britain is not a Schengen signatory, visas are required.
    Unless, of course, the spouse obtained British Citizenship

    I had to apply for my wife for our Italian Holiday last year, and I will have to apply for our break in the Netherlands soon.
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  5. PorkAdobo
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    PorkAdobo Active Member

    What does this part mean then?

    Visa required, except for Family members of a national of an

    EEA Member State or Switzerland, with a residence permit
    issued by the United Kingdom or a passport containing a
    Permanent Residence sticker issued by the United Kingdom to

    family members of a Union Citizen, for a maximum stay of 90

    days. They must travel with or travel to join the Union
    Citizen.


    BREXIT: On 31 January 2020 the United Kingdom withdrew from
    the European Union (EU) and ceased to be a member of the
    European Economic Area (EEA). A transition period of 11

    months was agreed; therefore, entry regulations remain

    unchanged until 31 December 2020, i.e., regulations related
  6. Aromulus
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    Aromulus The Don Staff Member

    A few years ago, our holiday to Italy was spoiled by Jet2.com staff at Manchester Ringway Airport because the wording on my wife's Permanent Residence Card was not correct.

    So we drove back home, and there were no refunds, and the Travel Insurance I took was rendered invalid by the Visa Rule.

    Trust me, do get a Schengen Visa.
  7. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Paul
    See this link
    https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/philippines

    As my post said above you will need one
    The Uk opted out see this link

    The majority of them are countrieswhich are in the European Union (EU). However, two EU countries, the UK and Ireland decided to opt out ofSchengen. There are also fourcountries which are in the Schengen Area but are not EU member states: Iceland, Norway, Switzerland, and Liechenstein.
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    https://www.etiasvisa.com › is-t...
    Difference Between the European Union vs Schengen Area - ETIAS visa waiver
  8. Aromulus
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    Aromulus The Don Staff Member

    Better safe than sorry..
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  9. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    The UK opted out.
  10. PorkAdobo
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    PorkAdobo Active Member


    https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/apply-from-uk/

    Does the spouse of British national with UK permanent residence need a Schengen visa?
    Yes, the non-EU spouse of a UK national requires a visa to travel to the Schengen Area. However, if the following conditions are met then they are not required a visa:

    • The spouse holds a UK Residence Permit that states that the holder is a family member of an EU/EEA National.
    • Travelling with or joining the EEA/EU spouse.
  11. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    But in this instance the applicant is not a family member of an EU national
    Yes the UK is in the EU but opted out of the agreement.
    The bits you have quoted are if say you were French living in the UK and the applicant was your wife.
  12. PorkAdobo
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    PorkAdobo Active Member

    Does the spouse of British national with UK permanent residence need a Schengen visa?

    :erm::erm::erm::erm:
  13. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Your missing the simple point the UK opted out.

    Paul @Heathen don't let your holiday get spoilt by miss information.
    Your wife will require the visa take note of @Aromulus mis fortune
  14. PorkAdobo
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    PorkAdobo Active Member

    Hey, don't shoot the messenger. I'm just quoting the website that you cited.

    If you think that website is incorrect, don't quote it in future.

    The UK opting out of Schengen is different to opting out of Freedom of Movement. The requirements for Filipino students, workers etc will obviously be different to those of spouses.
  15. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Did I mention You?
    However by just pasting one of the 2 links I copied in your attempt to take it out of context
    Please don't tell me what I should or shouldn't do
    Thank you
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  16. PorkAdobo
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  17. Br28016
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    Br28016 Active Member Trusted Member

    Remember reading about this some time ago and pretty sure the wording on the BRP issued to wife of a British citizen does not meet the residence requirement.

    Think it is possible to get an additional one which does meet the requirement but can't remember the link to where you had to apply for it and sure there was a cost of about £65. With brexit may not even be possible now.

    Safe option is to get a visa.
  18. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Is this it?

    https://www.gov.uk/apply-for-a-uk-residence-card
  19. Br28016
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    Br28016 Active Member Trusted Member

    Possibly but think when I was searching before applied to family of UK citizens. Feels like need to be family of non British eu citizen now
  20. Heathen
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    Heathen Active Member

    I did try to phone the Polish embassy in london, but after listening to pre recorded messages and pressing the required buttons first press 2 listen then press 1 for operator it cut me off :frust:, so i will apply for a schengen visa at £69 plus the cost of the journey down to the smoke for 2 of us, Jeez its almost as much as the cost of flights to Gdansk.

    Thanks for your assistance with this guys.

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