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China coronavirus spread is accelerating, Xi Jinping warns.

Discussion in 'News from the UK, Europe and the rest of the World' started by aposhark, Jan 25, 2020.

  1. oss
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    I'm a depressing bug*er on purpose Mike, I do often take and write a pessimistic view of things, I've done it all my life, I always hope I am wrong I want the nice pleasant surprise I get when it turns out that the model I built in my head is wrong and I've been wrong so many times, in the late 1970s I was utterly convinced that I would never see the age of 30 because there would be a nuclear catastrophe a global nuclear war, I was wrong and what a surprise that was :)

    Sometimes my kind of pessimism is a kind of alternative under the hood desire for optimism, inverted optimism maybe :)

    Sadly this time that mental modelling exercise looks fairly realistic, the one real talent I have in life is the ability to construct complex visual models of systems in my head, that's why I'm a successful Software Developer because that kind of modelling is what programming is all about.

    I am sad but not surprised that I appear to be right this time and that I saw it coming a long time back, but hey ho life goes on, let's spin the chamber a few more times and have someone else pull the trigger :)

    I am massively relieved that from the close of business today we as a business are all working from home, no more need to go out at all and no more exposure to each others families and contacts, I'm down to me and the visit to supermarket :)
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    Angela Merkel has tested positive.
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    and of late doesn't appear to of been in the best of health!
    I wish her well, along with all sufferers
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    Has anyone seen the stats comparing the Italian day by day data with the U.K. data? It matches. Except two weeks behind. What Italy experiences today, we can possibly expect 2 weeks from now.
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    Thought just self quarantine.
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    Italy was about 5% which is where we are hovering right now.

    But now Italy is closer to a 10% mortality ratio to known infections.
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    Ah ok I see your point, that does not bode well.

    I've already theorised on here that the increased death rate in Italy is due to the increasing lack of medical resources, pure speculation on my part though.
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    from https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-...se/have-many-coronavirus-patients-died-italy/


    “The age of our patients in hospitals is substantially older - the median is 67, while in China it was 46,” Prof Ricciardi says. “So essentially the age distribution of our patients is squeezed to an older age and this is substantial in increasing the lethality.”

    A study in JAMA this week found that almost 40 per cent of infections and 87 per cent of deaths in the country have been in patients over 70 years old.

    And according to modelling the majority of this age group are likely to need critical hospital care - including 80 per cent of 80-somethings - putting immense pressure on the health system.

    But Prof Ricciardi added that Italy’s death rate may also appear high because of how doctors record fatalities.

    “The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus.
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    Jane Goodall message:

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    The PNP were going around the Barangays warning people to stay in their homes, only to go out for essential items. The sari sari stores have been banned from selling alcohol, and over 65's not allowed out of their homes.
    Wife can't drive and the trikes are only allowed 2 passengers. But my neighbor said just ask and he will go into town for us, he's in his 50's.
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    Alcohol has two issues one is that it impairs the immune system to some degree, and second it releases people's inhibitions and may result in behaviour like less strict washing of hands and less strict isolation from each other.

    It has not been spelled out that one should not buy it in supermarkets yet but I suspect one would get a dirty look if you were to buy booze in a British supermarket now.

    The chap in front of me at the checkout a few days ago was trying to buy 6 separate bottles of different beers he wasn't allowed to and only left with three meanwhile I had bought 1 slab of 18 beers and was able to walk out with them no problem :)

    I am close to quitting drink completely now, they're almost all gone :D
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    You know the saying - a pessimist is never disappointed. In this day and age its hard to be optimistic. :like:
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    i'm optimistic.

    separate subject. what nation stands to benefit most from the economic chaos this virus is causing ?
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    None, we've done the conspiracy theories before ;) :D

    We don't need conspiracy theories to explain this.
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