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Who's Staying Up Tonight? :D

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion and Ethics' started by Anon220806, May 7, 2015.

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  1. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    Good grief I find myself agreeing with an unlikely candidate ;)
  2. Markham
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    This will be the north of England that is Labour's traditional heartland. Or maybe that should be "was Labour's heartland" as that region was pretty much ignored by Blairism in favour of southern yuppies and all in the name of "Cool Britannia". It is little wonder, therefore, that Ukip swelled its membership quite substantially with former Labour voters and, I read, Ukip did far more harm against Labour candidates than Conservative ones.

    I'm a tad disappointed with the result as I wanted to see Boris take-over the Tory leadership. Hopes of that have further faded by Cameron's virtual anointment of his successor, Osborne, by giving him the seldom-used appointment of First Secretary.
  3. AndyRam
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    A bonkers argument, reeking of bias, in my opinion. :)

    UKIP swelled its membership mostly because of the obvious reason - a reason that Labour has been historically slow to tackle, and the Tories have been too, as figures will prove (despite the rhetoric). Of course, some of it could have been because of the reasons I outlined in a previous post. But the main reason is the obvious one.

    The reason that UKIP did more harm against Labour candidates than Conservative ones is simply that more people tend to support Labour than the Conservatives in the North. Vice versa, and the opposite would apply.

    You're having a mega-sized giraffe. I think you are confusing politics with light entertainment?
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  4. KeithAngel
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    Im of the view that Boris is much more representative of what we collectively deserve :eek:
  5. AndyRam
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    What next, the four horsemen of the apocalypse...
  6. AndyRam
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    Osborne is a complete knob of the highest order. I've never met such a stuck up, arrogant photo-opportunity seeking toff in all my life.
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  7. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    I could not disagree with that, for sure, couldn't have put it better myself :)
  8. AndyRam
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    I don't like Cameron, but at least he is good for the lolz.

    Osborne is a complete career politician. I have no doubt that he feels it is his destiny to lord it all over us scum.
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  9. oss
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    And I agree :)
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  10. Anon220806
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    Boris is definitely entertaining. :D
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  11. KeithAngel
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    and then we still have the delightful Theresa May that vicious git whos lost millions from the DWP
  12. Markham
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    The day she leads the Tory party will be the day I join Charlotte Church's anarchists -- but I'd stop short of painting slogans on war memorials!
  13. walesrob
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    That made me laugh - "I'm as Mad as Hell" Never mind Churchy, I'm sure all the money you made over the years from music sales will soothe the anger you feel.

    All these people saying its unfair the Tories won, what do you want? A Labour government now without a leader? A Labour party in disarray? Ed recognized he got it wrong and gracefully resigned, along with Nick Clegg, but somehow some people just can't accept it - its almost some kind of entitlement - they expected Labour to win, they didn't, so 'we was conned' and now the nasty Tories will unleash the hounds of hell. Strange.
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  14. Aromulus
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    In some other countries losing a democratically held election is the cataclysmic start to armed civil unrest, chàos, violence, etc. Etc.... I expected the usual suspects to start the odd riot to cover the resulting looting and pillage with accompanying cars and the odd business set on fire. And i am slightly worried for the future.
  15. Anon220806
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    Yes. We do not want the Scots tearing up Wembley yet again! :D
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  16. walesrob
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    Oh, I expect as usual, the country will return to normal shortly. Let them get it out of their system.
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    I reckon it was Clegg who recognised that he'd got it wrong and the one who resigned gracefully. Miliband knew he had lost the election but didn't know why. He failed to appreciate that his political thinking was so 1970s and we've all grown-up over the last 40 years. His left-wing dogma appealed to the likes of Len McCluskie but didn't endear him to the blue-collared many who lost their jobs to Blair's cheap imports from Europe. And Miliband didn't understand the (so-called) middle classes at all and had no appeal to them - his minders ensured he didn't meet any as his whole pre-election tour was carefully stage-managed to include only party activists in the audience(s). His deputy, Harriet Harman, has announced her departure also though she'll linger until a new leader is elected in 3 or 4 months' time.

    Who will Labour choose? Twinkle-toes Yvette Cooper (aka Mrs Balls) who, along with her husband, claimed more in expenses than any other MPs over the last five years? Or Andy Burnham who, as Labour's Health Secretary, oversaw the mid-Staffs tragedy? It's looking bleak if they're the best Labour has to offer. The candidates that are far worthier of consideration aren't even in the running - decent honest people like Frank Field, Simon Danzuk and John Mann. Senior figures who recognise Blair's failures and have long departed from the Marxist politics of the Oxford PPE graduates. Speaking as an unabashed Tory, I hope their next leader is as equally unelectable as was his predecessor!

    In the Lib Dem's case there is only one choice - Tim Farron. Unless .... Cleggie does a Farage and puts his name forward!

    The next 3 or 4 months will be "interesting" and those of a nervous disposition might like to take a leave of absence and hide on some Philippine island where there's no internet availability. The Tories will take full advantage of the inter-regnums over at Labour and the Lib Dems to get its more controversial bits of legislation passed such as replacing the Human Rights Act with a British Bill of Rights. It will probably also act to nullify any ill-effect the SNP might try to bring to bear. The timing could not be better, by the time the next election comes, almost everyone will have forgotten the less-welcome bits of legislation the Tories passed in their first few months!
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  18. KeithAngel
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    Hilary Benn :p
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    I did not stay up to watch the coverage either. Even if I did have a TV I would not have watched! Now, if there was a moon landing I would watch that and if that moon landing contained all 650 MPs I would buy a TV just to watch that!
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