Freedom of Movement

There are two, melilla and ceuta, but ceuta is closest to the European mainland so its packed with African refugees, they used to storm the border fence to try and touch base to claim asylum, its a lively place.

did they come in a roof box to?
I have met a couple of Africans and my wife actually works with one, I dont have a problem with those that come here legally its those that dont I have issue with.

I have met a lot of Africans. I used to work there for 4 years.

No. They had no need to stowaway in a roof box as they came in via the route described. For good or for bad that route will shortly be closed off which is the main thrust of the thread. What will employers do in the New Year without our Nigerian friends making it to the UK either legally or illegally?

Or do you think there will be enough illegal immigrants to fill the employment gap?

I have been saying for years, before we thankfully voted to leave the EU and end FOM, that british kids should be trained to fill skills shortages, education is always the key, train this islands youngsters, the PI has so many graduates it exports them, there's a huge surfeit of nurses there, because they understand the value of education and the need for a better life, educate british youngsters in the same way.

Illegal immigrants should be sent back to their motherland, they are illegal and have no legal right in this country, any other stance is condoning rule breaking and is a great cost to the UK taxpayer and burdens our NHS, our pension pots, and a lot of other central costs. The employer of illegal labour is after making a cheap buck for himself not the love of the country
In terms of those from far shores who are here legally great, welcome you deserve to be here.
Do i think there will be enough free movement next year to fill the employment gap, I maybe wrong but as I understand it, if they (EU Citizens)continue to want to live in the UK after the 30 June 2021 then they need to apply using the EU Settlement scheme, pretty much brings them in line with non europeans like our wives who have jumped through expensive hoops to be and stay here, again welcome and happy your staying. This should take care of a number of the good people already working hard within the UK.
In terms of the semi skilled ie fruit and veg pickers I am sure the government will be under pressure to reintroduce and in some cases continue SAWS to meet the demand. This again is a fully legal and legitimate way not only to be employed but also to employ.
Probably doesnt resolve all the issues but goes along way to legalise employer and employee status and a big plus is it ensures the employee is working under reasonable conditions

That irked a lot of people, Europeans being able to bring their non EU wives here without having to jump through a single hoop.

by all accounts it costs one tenth of the visa fee to process and authorise/refuse the visa application the rest I guess goes to Border control costs and the like.

there are probably some clues in herehttps://fullfact.org/immigration/uk-spending-security-calais/

You are right. Those that have arrived legally will be able to stay by the means you state. But if things go according to the current plan then after 31st December employers will not be able to “turn on the tap” for more EU unskilled workers that currently man the factories up here in the northwest in eye watering numbers. Employers will have to employ from the existing UK pool or find some other alternative such as do without or use technology and mechanisation. That’s when the employment gap might well develop.

Yes it did irk a lot of people on the Fil Brit forums.

50% or more of an entire factory. Repeated across the North West. Is that eye watering in your eyes?

It will be eye watering when employers cannot employ from that source at the end of the year.

That’s what Mattecube was saying and is well known. If they have done the necessary paperwork and want to stay then they can.

In the past, if an employer has wanted an all singing all dancing EU worker they have only needed to click their fingers and one appears on the next plane UK bound. That will stop. Many of the existing EU workers will of course stay. It’s the need for new recruits, especially when increased production is required, that will become a problem for employers. Employers will not be able to click their fingers and fly in an unskilled Pole or Rumanian or Bulgarian or Lithuanian (or Russian or Nigerian) worker in the way they have been able to. That’s where the employment gap will become a problem.