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Coronavirus in the UK

Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by aposhark, Mar 4, 2020.

  1. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    How're you doing today mate?
  2. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    I feel ok.no pain yet. Had another ct scan of my pancreas. Surgeon says he will remove gall bladder but not just yet. More tests i think.
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  3. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    New cases and deaths on the up!
    Germany predicting a terrible Christmas
  4. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Glad to be back home. Took 4 hours to get discharged ! Lots of lovely fili staff in there..they never keep still.
    Will be treated as an outpatient now. Got meds inc morphine if it all kicks off again.
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  5. Mystica
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    Going for scuba diving? :D
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  6. oss
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    Glad to hear you are home Malcolm, did they not do anything in the end apart from the morphine?

    Also was it actual morphine and not DF118?

    I remember getting DF118 way back when I was 20 years old and got taken to hospital and it was pretty trippy :D don't think I have ever had actual morphine :)
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  7. oss
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    If I could have had my own oxygen cylinder Mystica then I would have :D

    Nearly 6 days later and no sign of having picked up anything at the vaccine centre so I'm happy :D

    Just on my way out to Lidl to buy some raspberries won't have the goggles but I will have the mask even though the place will be very quiet :D
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  8. Druk1
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    Saw this at church yesterday :lol: Screenshot_20211122_105316.jpg
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  9. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    dunno what it is--ora morph? But i sure needed it sat afternoon--took the pain out quick. Been ok since.
  10. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    Yeah that's real morphine :)
  11. oss
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    Well here we go again, I quote my post from March this year, "All it takes is one vaccine escape variant".

    Of course we don't know yet if the new Omicron variant from South Africa will out compete Delta in the game of evolution but it has a bloody good chance of doing so, it could equally have arisen in the UK indeed anywhere where the case numbers are high, "No mutation without replication".

    "Western countries helping poorer nations like the Philippines" I think I did say elsewhere right near the start of all this that one of biggest worries in the scientific community was of some horrible variant emerging from countries with low vaccination rates the worry was primarily that this would happen in Africa but in the event it happened in India with Delta, Africa just took a little longer.

    The sad thing about this is that recently in Japan there has been a miracle where Delta appears to have mutated itself to extinction they went from a huge peak to almost nothing in the last few months, there might have been something in Delta that predisposed it to die out this happened to SARS-CoV-1 that virus no longer exists.

    Many of the multiple mutations in Omicron are in the spike protein, the spike protein is a key our cells provide the lock that key opens, when infected our bodies generate a lock which is the right shape to fit a specific key these are the antibodies, the idea being that the virus particles get inactivated by the antibody 'lock' attaching to the virus spike protein 'key' and blocking those spikes from opening the door into cells, with loads of changes to the spike protein it is very likely that our natural and vaccine induced antibody response will fail to attach to virus 'key' and the virus will still deliver its payload into our cells.

    So we could be back at January 2020 when this thing had just been discovered and what are we going to do this time, well we will probably just sit around for 2 months while it spreads so far that it becomes impossible to do anything about it just the same as the last time with Delta and the first time with the wild type variant in Jan 2020.

    Yes I am cynical I don't think we have learned a damn thing in the last two years, they have not closed down flights instantly as they should have I think it will be Sunday again before African flight restriction are fully in effect along with quarantine.

    And it is about freaking time that we started helping these countries with vaccination although that will be a moot point now as the level of immunity we have to Delta could be irrelevant now.

    And modified vaccines, 7 months minimum to the start of a new vaccine programme in my view, clinical trials still required, effectiveness not guaranteed although I bet someone has already designed the vaccine for this variant it only took about three hours to design the original vaccine candidates in Jan 2020, but manufacture will have to be parallel to current manufacturing because we will have to contend with both Delta the dominant strain and potentially this new Omicron variant.

    I really really really hope I am being over pessimistic here.
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  12. Anon220806
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    I had my gall bladder removed in 2007. They had trouble diagnosing the source of the problem for about a year until I eventually rolled up in A and E in absolute agony. At that point everything was at an advanced stage including a jaundicing of the skin from the bile that resides in the gall bladder. That night I was on morphine. They stabilised me after several days. It was the pancreas that was the source of the pain. I was then told they would remove my gall bladder. They did that about 3 months later. There were several stones inside that they couldn’t see from the scans that I had taken months before. So ever since I have had no gall bladder and function pretty much as before. And no pancreatitis since.

    I have since found out that the gall bladder deteriorates if not used to digest fat. So those on a low fat diet are at risk and I had indeed been on a low fat diet at the time.

    It sounds like yours needs to be removed. The good news is that most people function okay and still digest fat succesfully once removed.
  13. bigmac
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    Thanks for that...only ive been advised to go low fat!...
    In agony again last night. Paracetamol..morphine and tramadol. Ok this morning..oh..and weight down to 14 st 8 now.
  14. Anon220806
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    LOL. You don’t surprise me. Still, too late now as the damage has been done. The same applied to me and many others. But a word of warning to others going low fat. You may well up the same way.

    Now that the damage has been done. Going forward, once the gall bladder has been removed, you probably will be able to consume healthy fat. Most who have the op do. Me included. I do understand if you are being advised not to eat fat but believe you me they are wrong. We are designed to eat fat. That’s what the gall bladder is for. If we stop using it, it doesn’t like it leading to the agony you have just experienced.

    ( I won’t read any naive / cab jockey type responses to this so those culpable, don’t waste your breath ).
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

  16. Druk1
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    1963 movie :confused:
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  17. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    I believe it was called just Omicron, the words "The" and "Variant" looks photoshopped in :D
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  18. oss
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    Actually the word Omicron looks shopped in as well :) but there definitely was a movie called Omicron :D
  19. Aromulus
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    I very vaguely remember it, I was 12 years old when it showed.

    Don't know what it was all about tho...
  20. Anon220806
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    Difficult concept to grasp for some, I know…..

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