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Coronavirus in the UK

Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by aposhark, Mar 4, 2020.

  1. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    Elsa had,,,,,,,,,,,,,a headache lasting 7 days,
    That must have been very unpleasant for her, Rob o_O
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  2. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    I beg your pardon, I was replying to Rob and partially in the context of John's point about food, so why would I be expecting you to agree with anything in my reply?

    I am very sorry to hear of the death of your niece but what exactly are you disagreeing with in my reply to Rob?
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    Thanks Mike, Elsa is never sick, but it was worrying to see her like this - she was literally glued to the sofa for a week, couldn't eat, and only drank water. It just shows that even if you're fully jabbed, there is still a risk. I suppose it doesn't help that Elsa works in A & E at the hospital, so all sorts of stuff is floating around. Most of her colleagues were off sick as well.
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  4. CatchFriday
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    CatchFriday British Expat living in Alicante, Spain

    Oss you wrote "The vaccines removed the naïve immune response and overreaction of that immune response which was the primary cause of death, the so called cytokine storm, and some of us may have had slightly less naïve immune systems due to prior recent infection with other coronaviruses which is possibly why so many asymptomatic cases existed in the early days and even now a lot of vaccinated individuals who go get a PCR test for travel turn out to be Covid positive when they have no symptoms at all, one of our senior field staff had to abandon his flight to Africa a few weeks ago for this very reason and we only sent half the team we needed over there."

    Forgive me, I didn't quite catch the flow. i must have picked it up wrongly......apologies
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

    Don’t get me wrong. I am not an anti vaxer. I simply believe vaccinations have been necessary for the vulnerable only. I have posted this lady’s antibody history before, earlier in the pandemic. She has never been vaccinated against covid. She is in her later 50s and was massively obese but isn’t now at all. Owing to dietary choices eats well and has an excellent immune system. Here are her monthly antibody test results. She never hid during the pandemic.

    Perhaps the question should be raised. Who is acting more irresponsibly, the anti vaxxer or the carbohydrate addict?

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  6. Anon220806
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    There has been some heated debate (and some nonsense posted) on the topic.

    @oss

    Here in the BMJ we have the answer to the debate on risk factors for Covid 19 and various metabolic health conditions.

    “Risk factors for COVID-19 patients with poorer outcomes include pre-existing conditions: obesity, type 2 diabetes mellitus, cardiovascular disease (CVD), heart failure, hypertension, low oxygen saturation capacity, cancer, elevated: ferritin, C reactive protein (CRP) and D-dimer. A common denominator, hyperinsulinaemia, provides a plausible mechanism of action, underlying CVD, hypertension and strokes, all conditions typified with thrombi. The underlying science provides a theoretical management algorithm for the frontline practitioners.”

    Only these people need the vaccine, but there are a lot of them.

    https://openheart.bmj.com/content/7...keUBQY3Wm1Ae6N9CTHflBjgSpdm13H4ujz-o-PzZZLyGQ
  7. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    I went to a Tesco supermarket yesterday and could count on the fingers of two hands the amount of people wearing face masks, it was a big supermarket :rolleyes:
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

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  9. Anon220806
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    They are lining up Vladimir Putin for a Noble Peace Prize having managed to eradicate Covid19 overnight!
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  10. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Dreadful comment to make in very very bad taste. Idiot
  11. Anon220806
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    @oss I thought you said that.
    He isn’t a great fan of calories in calories out when it comes to food. He was ripping it apart only a couple of days ago in the House of Lords.
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    Not directly Covid related but I got my Pneumococcal vaccine yesterday, I was surprised to be offered it as I am under 65, this vaccine is designed not to prevent pneumonia but to make you less likely to die of pneumonia.

    While talking to the nurse she informed me that the flu vaccine and new Covid vaccine rollout will commence from end of September, not sure if this is a combined vaccine such as was available for part of last year, but given that the first new Covid vaccine from Moderna will be a combined original wild type strain and original Omicron I suspect they might put the flu vaccine in a separate vaccination, the flu vaccines are multivalent (deals with many possible strains of flu) these days anyway.

    Anyway no symptoms at all from the pneumonia vaccine no temperature, just a dull ache in my arm muscle :)
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    ho hoho @KeithAngel [​IMG]
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    I was so angry yesterday, My wife and her sister were being shown a blender in the mall and opposite us there was a shop assistant about 4ft coughing without his face mask on. I shouted at him to put his mask on and I give him a piece of my mind. He put his mask on then walked away without saying anything so I shouted no need for an apolody dong. (sarcasm).
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  16. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    You're a braver man than me to risk criticising a filipino :eek:
  17. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    Filipinas are just as dangerous.
    I'm surprised I still have my itlogs :eek:
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  18. Jim
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    Jim Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    No problem, I had my wife and her sister by my side. They are enough to scare anyone. :blackeye:
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    So I finally have caught it.

    Had to attend a funeral last Friday, started to feel a little off late Saturday night so an incubation period of less than 48 hours closer to 36 hours, felt a bit off most of Sunday but tested negative but called my boss to ask to work from home today, so tested again this morning and yeah I'm positive.

    Feel fairly well at the moment will update you as to progress of symptoms.
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  20. aposhark
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    Hope your covid is as benign as mine was a month or two ago, Jim. :like:

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