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Discussion in 'Rant and Rave' started by bigmac, Oct 5, 2025.

  1. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    i dont understand this:

    If these "asylum seeker" males arriving on our beaches--how do they prove they are genuine if they have destroyed evidence of what country they have left ?

    If they claim to be from country X a few simple questions about country X should quickly establish if they are genuine.
  2. Aromulus
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    My gripe on this matter is very simple.

    Before landing in the UK, they must have crossed several safe countries where they could have applied for Asylum, but the pull of free, nearly, everything is to great to ignore.

    In the mean time we have thousands homeless people, countrywide, many of them veterans, suffering from PTSD that have fallen through the canyon sized cracks in the system and wonder aimlessly looking for a bit of sympathy and help. But those unlucky citizens are being blatantly ignored.
    I blame largely, the various governments that were in charge over that last 15/20 years, that they didn't really do much -or anything at all to discourage or/and stem a welcome manageable level of migration.
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  3. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    typical questions to asylum seeker

    Q what country are you from?
    prove it--any documents.
    what is the language of that country
    lets talk in that language

    the blame for this mess is--FRance--they should have refused entry in the first place--instead of passing the buck.
  4. walesrob
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    This has also been puzzling to me as well. Migrants crossing from North Africa, for example, will probably land in Italy first, then move into Germany and/or France to cross into the UK. So, as you say, its the pull of freebies that make the UK attractive. Apart from that, who wants to live in this grey, wet, cold, dreary country!

    As for the one in, one out, I'll gladly volunteer myself to be out, as long as Spain takes me!
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  5. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Extract Google AI
    Top Countries for Asylum Applications (First-Time Applicants)
    • Germany:
      Receives a large number of first-time asylum applications, particularly from Syrians.
    • Italy:
      Another top EU destination, with many applications from countries like Bangladesh.
    • France:
      A significant destination for asylum seekers in Europe.
    • Spain:
      A major destination in the EU, receiving many applications from Venezuelans.
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  6. Mattecube
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  7. John Surrey
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    John Surrey Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Interesting couple of posts...

    Perhaps Germany, Italy, France and Spain take first pick - those with professions, trades, skills etc. and then leave whatever is left (the sick, the criminals, the lunatics and the sexual predators etc.) to find a home in good old Blighty :like:
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  9. John Surrey
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    NF,as prime minister would be an absolute disaster for this country,absolute disaster
  11. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    Wow..... I absolutely f*ckin agree and I would not have expected that sentiment from you, my apologies.
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  12. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    I'm curious as to why?
  13. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    The gut feeling that I get from this forum is that the majority of the active members lean very much towards the Reform UK party, it's one of the reasons that I feel less and less involved and have expressed a desire to exit this place.

    Saying that there are a good number of notable exceptions, it's not 90% extreme right it's closer to just over 50% and a spectrum between right and extreme right, my gut feeling over the years of reading threads and your responses was that you would probably have leaned in that direction although I would be remiss if I didn't say that you have made many posts which left me feeling ambigous about my gut feeling.

    I was/am pleasently surprised by your earlier post.
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  14. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    out of curiosity what are the Reform party's proposals and intentions ?
    and why would farage be a disaster ?
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  15. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Here is Reform's 2025 manifesto

    https://www.reformparty.uk/policies

    If you cant download the policies section google Reform 2025 manifesto
    I will reply later on my disaster comment
  16. John Surrey
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    Looks good to me !
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  17. walesrob
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    What I find depressing is that people are convinced voting Reform will be the answer to all the problems of this country.

    There is obviously anger at both main political parties for the way we've been treated like mushrooms. Hence Labour coming third in the recent Senedd by-election in Caerphilly. Beaten into 3rd place by Reform. For a new party to do that in such a short time, and in what has been a Labour stronghold is nothing short of spectacular.

    Here in Wales, there are predictions of Labour getting a hiding next May in the Senedd elections. Plaid Cymru on the surface seem a viable alternative, but they are just Labour in green clothing if you dig deeper, albeit a bit more left wing. They have no real ambition for Wales, unlike the SNP in Scotland.

    If Reform ever get into government, things will go downhill rapidly, and then we'll be learn our lesson and go back to the Labour-Conservative duopoly. Rinse and repeat.

    Nigel is a charlatan and is a danger to society.
  18. John Surrey
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    John Surrey Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Come on... seriously how bloody long have we had this two party system - and what have they done for the vast majority of the ordinary working people - **** all.

    Perhaps it's time to try something different.
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Nigel is devisive and to close to Trump and his policies.

    A politician who cares for himself and the sound of his own voice , who will be vilified by our world friend's

    Immigration Policies
    Much of the rhetoric out of Farage will drive and drives division and hatred, multi cultural families and communities will be broken and shattered driven to racial bitterness and street fighting. Straw poll where I live a street of probably 50 house and there is not one silly flag waving household. We have all seen the race riots across he UK and yet Farage appears to resist the opportunity to condemn the riots likening those arrested within the riots as political prisoners!
    Farage with his policy on dependants (non eu) being driven out will probably encourage a skills gap in those skilled workers and essential worker areas who brought their dependants with them, and they the skilled worker r essential worker will return with their dependants leaving the UK,
    Ex Pats wanting to return to the UK will find it more challenging to bring their loved ones with them a more detailed lengthy and costly process ie a rise in the minimum salary/savings threshold.
    He talks about getting 2 million Brits back to work, those that have been out of work long term, well good luck with that, we saw the result of that pre and post Brexit
    He wants to break down diversity, that is ann erosian of a free world!

    Yes we need to get a grip of immigration, yes we need to stop the boats, yes we need to get a grip on benefit handouts, yes we need o get a grip on the breakdown of the UK being a Christian country, there are many challenges ahead but we must challenge the future not beat up the past.
  20. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    That's like saying I've dated 2 ugly birds so I'll turn to men
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