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Baby born in philippines by naturalised british mother

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself' started by Lory, Dec 28, 2015.

  1. Lory
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    Hi im new in british filipino. Im a filipino naturalised british.been staying in philippines for just over 2 years to be with my partner,we have an 8 mons old baby now. Wanted to bring them back to england. Can i register my baby in british embassy manila?or the worse part that need to leave my baby and partner here then find work and establish myself in england then apply for their visa? Since my savings in england is just over half of what they are requiring for.Please i need some advice.many thanks.
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    As far as I know you should have full British Citizenship so your child should be British by descent, you should probably do a consular birth registration at the embassy but you don't have to do this, the child is British already and the child's NSO birth certificate should be accepted as proof of this.

    To travel with the baby you will need to have a Philippine passport for the baby, you can apply for a British passport for the baby but it is quite a long process and needs a lot of proof.

    Can you clarify your circumstances so we can help a bit better, I am assuming that you are the 'mother' you are now British and your partner is Filipino, is that correct?
  3. Lory
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    Thank you OSS. yes that is correct. I am the mother. I am a naturalised british citizen(but i am dual also holding a filipino passport), used to be married with a british guy, broke up in 2011 and got divorced last 2013. Now, i have a filipino partner. I have been staying here in Philippines since september 2013. I wanted to go back to england next year and bring them with me. I dnt know if that is possible?
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    Yep that is what I thought, thanks for making it clear.

    The child should not be a huge problem but your partner will be a problem, are you as a couple able to get married in the Philippines?

    By that I mean are you personally acknowledged as divorced by the Philippines and is your partner free to marry under Philippine law?
  5. Lory
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    Do i have to go to brit embassy manila to register my child to travel with me using philippine passport? My other concern is i've lost my naturalisation certificate and my only proof as british is my passport.would that be enough?

    My partner is free to marry under philippine law but my divorced hasn't been acknowledge here yet cause my lawyer said it will take years.

    I dont have a house in england my savings is just around £40k. I dont know if that is enough?
  6. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    I seem to remember that who divorced who comes into it for the Fils if you divorced him then the Fils dont recognise it
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    Hi Lory.

    I think that unless your British husband initiated the divorce you won't be allowed to re-marry in the Philippines.

    However, you can marry in the UK or elsewhere - if I may offer a suggestion, why not marry in Hong Kong? The procedure is simple and quick and you don't need visas and the marriage is recognised in the UK. The Hong Kong marriage certificate can be accepted in the Philippines as legitimising your child even though the marriage is not recognised in the Philippines - I know this because I have done it myself.

    You can get a replacement for your lost Certificate of Naturalisation but your British Passport should be enough.

    I think that you would have to move here and then apply for either a marriage visa if you and your partner marry in Hong Kong or a marriage settlement visa if unmarried for your partner.

    There may be another problem: I think I am right in saying that, as you were not born in the UK, and your baby was not born in the UK, the baby does not have right of abode in the UK and will need a visa.
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  8. oss
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    The other guys are right, if you were the one who started divorce proceedings then it will never be recognised in the Philippines, so don't waste money on lawyers, if your ex husband divorced you then the procedure is not that complex to get the divorce recognised in the Philippines and should not cost you a fortune.

    Regards the savings thing I'm not an expert on the financial requirements but I do know a bit about the citizenship side of things for your baby.
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    Yeah..I think you are right... One day if my daughter that is British by decent (born in R.P) ever wants kids,they will have to be born in the U.K if she wants them to be Brits...
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    That is true for people who are British by descent, I am not sure it is true for a naturalised citizen.
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  11. oss
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    I had a look around for info on this, this lady is what is known as "a British Citizen otherwise than by descent" which is what the rest of us are, I can't find any distinction or subdivision of "British Citizen otherwise than by descent" that would make a naturalised citizen have fewer rights than a British born citizen, I think her child will be "British by descent".
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    So GREAT news for the OP then right??!!
  13. Lory
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    Thank you Methersgate for your suggestion. This is very helpful. We're thinking of getting married in hongkong instead and sorting out what documents or requirements needed. How long have you waited for your marriage certificate?
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    Thank you Methersgate for your suggestion. This is very helpful. We're thinking of getting married in hongkong instead and sorting out what documents or requirements needed. How long have you waited for your marriage certificate?
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    Hi Methersgate,
    I just want to ask some questions about marrying in Hong Kong, did you inform the British Consular there before you get married & did you register your marriage certificate in the British Consular in Hong Kong after? Did u have to stay in hongkong for certain days as a british requirement? Thank you for your time.
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    Methersgate Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    My experience is not the most recent:

    There's a thread on marrying in Hong Kong, posted by Markham, which gives the details of the procedures. Will try to find it.
  17. Rob
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    Can you guys expand on entry not being a problem as my daughter newborn will have a Phil Passport.
    How does she get through UK Border?
    I am British BTW. Mother Philipina.

    Thanks In Advance for your help.
  18. Markham
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    Unless you also obtain a British Passport for her, your daughter will need a Visa.
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  19. Rob
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    Thanks,

    Should we register the birth at the uk embassy, then apply for visit visa as my wife has a spouse visa which will need the vingette renewed. Then apply for a uk passport when they come to the UK?

    What would you do and how lng would each processing be,

    Thanks Markham
  20. deanobeano
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    Your daughter as a passport already,if so then you could put a certificate of entitlement right to abode in the passport,think it's costs bout £472 if applying from Philippines,as did this for my stepson as his natural father is British.

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