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Boss says no to a holiday leave he previously said yes to. Options?

Discussion in 'General Chit Chat' started by Bradley smallwood, Aug 10, 2018.

  1. Bradley smallwood
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    Bradley smallwood Member

    I started my job in march. Before i started i told him about my holiday plans for September. He agreed and said i could take the additional week as unpaid.

    I have 10 days avaiable to have off. My holiday is 15 days.

    -I hand my notice in and leave.
    -I take 15 off and take the risk. Sacked. Warning. Whatever.

    -I offer to makeup for lost time by doing overtime to cover all the time i owe.

    -I offer to work one week for free (is this legal?)

    -I donate money all from a full weeks pay back to the factory? (Bribe? Surely not legal?)

    They sound reasonable?

    I really dont want to lose this job cos its a fairly decent pay job for a none skilled job. Lots of overtime available.
    I doubt i will be able get anything this good for long time if i leave so its just stressing me out.

    I just think bad to say yeah i can have it off only to turn around and say no when its all booked.
  2. Anon04576
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    Anon04576 Well-Known Member

    I’d ask to do overtime to make up for the additional days.
  3. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    Have you explained to him that you made the booking based on his assurance that you could take additional time off unpaid and that you stand to suffer substantial costs as a result of having to cancel.
  4. John Surrey
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    John Surrey Well-Known Member

    Yes so do the sensible thing and keep your job.

    Yes it's like that - Bosses will always want you to what suits them (and the business) best - maybe they've got some big orders and need everyone working in the run up to Christmas...

    Accept you need to change your plans... show your loyalty and devotion to the "Company"...

    Find out how much it's going to cost you to cancel your holiday, flights etc.... gently remind him of your agreement but don't expect him to keep it. Indicate how much it is going to cost you and the booking dates etc. - print it out on a nice piece of paper for him.
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  5. Maley
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    Maley Well-Known Member

    Depends on the job that you do but in a lot of cases you can now take a laptop and a vpn (via wifi at a hotel) to connect to your work’s email and then suggest that you work for 2 days per week while you are on holiday.

    Thats what i did with my previous company- my manager would approve my leave as long as i reply to emails at least once a week, so I always travel with my laptop. I know its not much of a holiday but its better than nothing.
  6. Drunken Max
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    Drunken Max Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    If your boss has said you cannot have the timeoff I do not see what making the ytime up or overtime will achieve. Did you get anything in writing? Try to get his refusal to honour that agreement written down at least then go see HR
  7. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    I spent the usual bit of time looking up the law on this, in the UK employment contracts have to be in writing, this is shared with tenancy contracts and consumer credit contracts.

    I must admit I was surprised that verbal employment agreements could be not binding and I will remember that in future, and I still have some doubt, other fairly authoritative sources state that verbal contracts are valid, see here https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/w...rights-and-contracts/contracts-of-employment/

    So really at the end of it I still don't know, my gut says verbal contracts are valid but the research says maybe.
  8. Dave_E
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    Dave_E Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Don't mope in the shadows, go for the agreed week without pay unless he makes you a better offer.:like:
  9. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    A few lame excuses you could offer

    I got bit by a dog and had to overstay a week

    I missed my plane

    I was having so much fun I lost track of the days

    I bought a copy of the Daily Mirror it said the something of September I forgot it takes 6 days to get to the Philippines

    Dont do anything that may impact your working relationship with your workmates!
  10. Alexnew
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  11. Alexnew
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    Alexnew Active Member

    The above link should clear up the written contract issue. I'd recommend contacting acas for advice regarding a verbal agreement made at the point of employment, another question would be if flights etc were booked prior to commencing employment
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  12. Bradley smallwood
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    Bradley smallwood Member

    Thanks for the replies. I had to do five 16 hour shifts. Working on none stop machinery cant decide if it was worse mentally or physically. Its done now, going phil in few weeks. Thankyou all
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