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British Gas raise prices by 12.5%

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion and Ethics' started by Bluebird71, Aug 1, 2017.

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  1. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    Things like a sky box use almost as much power in standby as they do when they are on, reason being that the sky box has to still be able to record programmes and check EPG's, the TV's don't use a lot of power now probably a couple of watts, I have a set of remote control plugs that I use to turn stuff on and off and the tele is one of them as you say wall sockets are often in inconvenient locations behind the device and so on, in my flat it is so cramped that I have to move furniture to get to the sockets.
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    I remember the old VHS tv recorders and the advice was to leave tem on standby rather than power them off. The reason is when powered off the recording heads would get condensation on them and eventually screw up. Standby meant a little bit of power kept everything warm and ticketyboo.
  3. Bluebird71
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    My Sky box uses 20 watts per hour on standby. My tv uses 1 watt every 10 hours. When the TV is on it is using about 80 watts. I think that's more.efficient than older gadgets like the old CRT TVs and monitors.

    With everything "off" we burn 100 watts an hour or 2.4kwh a day (about 30p). On non laundry days, we use about 6 kWh a day between 4 of us. So, about 40% of our electricity is just being on standby and the fridge/freezer.

    Our older LCD TV on standby seems to use about 5-10 watts per hour.

    There was an interesting thing I heard a while back - that despite people saving energy by going to leds, people are buying extra leds and so there is not an energy saving. I'm guilty of that, we have lots of lamps everywhere because I like them and they're cheap to run.
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    a few years ago--i was given a switching device--the tv plugs into the master socket--blue ray player etc into a slave socket---all goes off at the wall after a few seconds of the tv being switched to standby from the remote ( also LG ) there is another unswitched socket for the digital set box which stays on.

    i agree i dont like leaving tv's on stanby all the time---even if only one watt.
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    They are omnipresent here and have replaced incandescent and fluorescent bulbs completely. I feel as though we've gone back in time to when houses were lit with candles and oil lamps - the amount of illumination is about the same! They've almost completed replacing all the street lights, traffic lights etc., throughout the country with LED clusters which I would imagine will be giving the government quite a saving on its electricity bill.
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    LED gu10 spotlights.----ive got 10 in my lounge ceiling---running off 2 dimmer switches ( yes--i bought dimmable ones). but--i found that with the dimmers switched to off---there is still a glow from the LED bulbs. so i replaced one in each bank with a halogen bulb to soak up the small current.
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    ive just re-signed for a year with n-power--after they emailed me saying i will save £100+ by switching from the tariff i'm on now. but i imagine thats b*ll*x----just means i wont be hit with all the increase thats coming down. they estimate i will use £330 for electric and £300 for gas over the year.

    yeah right.
  8. Bluebird71
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    Use uswitch - put in how much electricity and gas you use per year and your post code, they find the best deals. I'm currently with Economy Energy but will be swapping to the greener (and cheaper) Tokin (may be the wrong name) soon.

    It's not worth staying with the same energy company beyond the end of your fixed price tarrriff. As it happens, EDF were one of the cheaper ones when I checked yesterday - but shop around.
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    err--in fact i just totalled my billing from 29th july last year ( when we moved in}...to the last one on 5th july last month--say 48 weeks.....£536.29. which is pretty good for a large house--full gas CH--cooking--daily shower. less than i thought.
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    I'm sitting in an office where in my room the seven florescent panels have been replaced with seven led panels same size, the LED's are much brighter than the panels they replaced and of course use a lot less energy, they also have a better colour temperature that feels more natural.

    If the LED's that are being used are not bright enough it is because they have picked the wrong rating for the lighting they replaced, there is no reason an LED cluster can't be as bright as the older lights they replace.
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  11. bigmac
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    i bought a lot of non-dimmable LED bulbs from poundland.

    for anyone who might ask--the were £1 each.

    sorry about that.
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    I use OVO energy and have a smart meter. I can see what I am using by the week/day/hour and top up as needed.
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  13. KeithAngel
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    Nothing to worry about the Tory,s have a plan

    Run down the NHS and Social care

    Make you work till you are 70

    When the older population has died back sufficiently solve the housing problem with bedsits from there houses which now belong to the state and can be further privatised

    Ration the Kilowatts you can use before paying huge increases:D
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    We have the added complication that there are three types of fitting in everyday usage here - UK bayonet, standard ES and miniature ES. Advisable not to stock-up with new bulbs as there's a good chance you've bought the wrong type!
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    Fail to understand why we were forced to replace the old incandescent filament bulbs by dodgy CFL bulbs, due to an oppressive EU directive.

    Thank God we are leaving the EU. :like:
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    What exactly do you find dodgy about CFL bulbs?

    All of the lamps in my house are fitted with CFL tubes, they take about 15 seconds to reach full brightness and have the same colour temperature as an old incandescent, it is more than 5 years since I replaced a light bulb in this flat and they save me money as I always liked 60W bulbs in small table lamps and I tend to use the lamps 6 to 8 hours each weekday evening and 16 to 20 hours on weekends as their use is mostly decorative.
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  17. KeithAngel
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    The Jurrasic period is alive and well:)
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  19. Dave_E
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    Surprised that you like them so much.

    All I remember is slow warm up times, poor light quality, dimmer switches had to be replaced, and everybody stockpiled the old incandescent bulbs because the new cfl's were so crap.

    GE admit as much on their website, and have already discontinued production of the CFL bulbs in favour of newer technologies.​
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    I have one lamp in the UK that takes about 30 seconds to reach peak brightness it is equivalent to a 100W lamp and just works, light quality is fine colour temperature is fine, no noticeable flicker.

    In the Philippines we use these (picture below), the light from these is way better than the incandescent lamps that people were still able to buy over there until a few years ago, they do fail more often than in the west due to brown outs and poor electrical wiring in houses but given the price of electricity in the Philippines I would rather pay for one of these every few years and be able to see, rather than sit under the dim 60 watt incandescent that the family would have bought otherwise, we have about 6 of these, 1 upstairs and 5 downstairs as the living room is huge.

    I have absolutely no problem with CFL bulbs as the technology has been very good for the last 10 or 15 years with fast start-up times, I still see families in the Phils with bulbs that have too low a rating and that have poor colour temperature but there is no need to buy that kind when much better options are available.

    I will at some point be switching to LED everywhere.

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