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Coronavirus (Covid-19) in Other Countries (not Philippines or UK)

Discussion in 'News from the UK, Europe and the rest of the World' started by aposhark, Oct 19, 2020.

  1. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    That looks so appetizing to me ;)
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

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  3. oss
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    Again agreed they did not have the same kind of lockdown we had and yet they still have fewer deaths, agreed I understand that.

    That graph is essentially plotting the deaths/million or deaths/hundred-thousand ratio over time, it's a fraction different from the current Worldometer values but then again Worldometer is possibly not that accurate.
  4. Anon220806
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    I see what you mean. They report retrospectively to date of deathwhich impacts the curve.
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    This was interesting:

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    :)

    Move the decimal point to the right 1 place and that bar chart is basically the same as Worldometer with a column sort.

    One thing to note is that it has long been accepted that Belgium includes many more cases and fatalities in their data due to their counting rules.

    Deaths per million is an absolute measure and obviously the numbers always increase with time but of course it does not give a clear indication of the extent of penetration of the virus in any particular country or community, there has been very little spread in countries like South Korea for example so their numbers are very small.

    That's why I wish there was more antibody testing so as to try to get a true IFR rate for these countries as that would be the true indicator of the health of any particular individual country.

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  9. Anon220806
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    The New York Times....

    “The Virus Is Devastating the U.S., and Leaving an Uneven Toll
    The United States saw the most new coronavirus cases of the pandemic on Friday, with deaths and hospitalizations also rising. Underlying conditions largely determine who survives.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/04/us/covid-united-states-surge.html
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    Try to protect the economy and screw the people :eek:
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    Not read this yet, but some thoughts have been floating round my head recently.

    The US has 16 million positive cases to date and some think that would indicate potentially up to 10 times that number had truly been infected which would place potential infection numbers in the US at 160 million by this point in time or half of their current population.

    The thing that I've noticed is that I was expecting a much higher spike after Thanksgiving, perhaps I was expecting too much the numbers have hovered around 200,000 to 240,000 new cases since then, now back in November I think it was the election that primed the current surge and mess but I thought Thanksgiving would have had more of an effect than it appears to have had so far and we are two weeks after that now.

    So tentatively, maybe we are seeing some barrier to spread start to build in the USA due to the true infection count, this would indicate that initial estimates of overall IFR were high, back at the start this looked like 30 times more deadly than the flu but it is looking to be closer to being potentially only 6 to ten times worse.

    Just speculation, it all depends on how many undetected cases and asymptomatic cases exist.
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    Hopefully Joe Biden will get a grip on this.
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    Yeah but it will have burned so long and so deep by the time he gets a chance to do anything and Trump has created so much division with this denial of basic hygiene measures and programmed the minds of his base with delusional freedom of choice bullshit that is is a huge uphill battle now.

    Lies have consequences, denial of reality is lying and that has real world results, that administration has been despicable in the way it has handled this disaster and time may already be up.
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    has anyone seen the bethlehem "star". heavy cloud here for days.
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