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Coronavirus in the UK

Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by aposhark, Mar 4, 2020.

  1. Anon220806
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

    Maybe the vaccination programme will bale us all out but this was released in the Lancet just before Christmas:


    Comparison of the characteristics, morbidity, and mortality of COVID-19 and seasonal influenza: a nationwide, population-based retrospective cohort study

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30527-0/fulltext

    "Patients with COVID-19 were more frequently obese or overweight, and more frequently had diabetes, hypertension, and dyslipidaemia..."
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  2. Anon220806
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    They reckon that at 15 million people vaccinated is the ‘magic number’ whereby all those at risk will have been vaccinated.
  3. Anon220806
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    Sebastian Rushworth MD - A Very Odd Year

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    “I graduated from medical school in January 2020. Long before starting to study to be a doctor, I had become interested in how diet and health are related, with a particular interest in the paleolithic diet. I think this was borne primarily out of my strong interest in evolution and biology – it just made sense that the diet humans were evolutionarily adapted to over the course of millions of years would also be the diet that is healthiest for us.”


    https://sebastianrushworth.com/2020/12/26/a-very-odd-year/
  4. Anon220806
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    So...should we lock the kids up at home owing to the fact that they are virus superspreading biohazards or should we lock the oldies up at home to avoid them suffering the ravages of Covid19?
  5. Anon220806
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    Dr Malcolm Kendrick. This was today’s Tweet by my GP’s brother. He obviously thinks of Kendrick in a positive light. I have a lot of time for Dr Simon Tobin who is preventing patients from the Liverpool suburbs from the premature ravages of chronic health diseases.

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  6. oss
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    Every single infection is an experiment for this virus, it is a new chance for it to change, it makes no damn difference if the person is old or young, if you let it infect people you risk it developing into something worse, and that is why locking up one part of the community is dumb.

    Every virus mutates, every one of them could turn into something even worse but the odds of that are much lower for viruses that have already adapted to their environment i.e. humans because large portions of the humans have some resistance in place already.

    Flu actually mutates quite slowly the annual flu vaccine is chosen to target the most likely strain which will prevail in any one year but this is chosen from existing known variants, new ones are rare.

    SARS-CoV-2 jumped species and while asymptomatic spread might look like natural immunity it isn't, these people get infected and pass it on they just don't get sick and what they pass on could be more 'fit' from a genetic point of view.

    Right at the start of this pandemic scientists were warning about the danger of not helping Africa and other poorer regions of the world for this very fear, the chance of giving the virus a huge population for it to experiment with, and what happens, a new variant appears there yes, but we also get a different new variant popping up here in the UK.

    Let it spread and you are playing Russian Roulette, with every new infection being another pull of the trigger.
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Brother in law his wife and son now infected tier 4
  8. bigmac
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    sorry to read that. When did you last see them ? have you been tested ?
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Thank you.We were meant to go over Christmas but I refused point blank! She is a nurse he is an anthetist at Salford general and worked all the way through I was tested 2 weeks ago all clear
  10. Druk1
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    Hope they are all fine when the storm blows over, front-line staff are most at risk, glad your test is clear, stay safe, stay healthy :like:
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Thank you
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  12. bigmac
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    thats a relief.
    i havent been tested--yet: but i'm not too worried--my wife tests herself--and all her staff and residents--twice a week.
    the only person i know who tested positive--and was hospitalised straight away for a 4 week stay--is now all clear and back at work and testing a lot. she was at my house xmas day while we were still tier 1.

    there have been a lot of positive cases here on the i o wight over the last few days..but i think its because of increased testing. which is more scary.
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  13. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Sefton area near me has one of the highest rising figures nationally which is a concern.
    We don't go out at all except shop, work and walking on the beach for exercise.
    Good excuse for feet up and relax over the holiday
  14. Heathen
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    Stay safe John, its a worrying time for all of us, same for us here we only go out to shop, work and dog walking exercise, but the wife was working with someone last Monday who has since tested positive for the virus, but being a careworker she cant self isolate otherwise there would be no-one to look after those in need, and thats the issue with frontline workers how can they isolate when they are needed on the front line..
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  15. bigmac
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    like minded--except for the work part. but i do drive the Mrs to and from work--so that counts.
    oh--and the exercise..i dont do any of that. except lifting a glass a few times.
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  16. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Yes my wife and her daughter do care work also and things are difficult for the sector and will be I guess for a while yet.
    But the light at the end of the tunnel has been switched on
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    I have our first holiday booked and it's to Iceland if it goes well we will then try Sainsbury's
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  18. bigmac
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    i just had to grab that
  19. Anon220806
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    So the solution is to lock the lot of us away.
  20. oss
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    Yes a China style lockdown for 16 weeks with a military style plan to get people vaccinated properly as per the original design of the vaccine trials.

    There are two new variants already and any country that can't get a grip on this risks creating more variants, eventually one of them will be able to escape the vaccines, time is up, I wrote way back at the start of all this that our western governments would fail at this and that the Chinese would succeed.

    Vaccine escape does not have to be inevitable but it will happen with all the anti-vaxxers and all the idiotic political indecisiveness.
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