If you harbour any doubts on the relationship between carbohydrates, glucose and sugar, and the speeds and magnitude of the responses, do you know why T1 diabetics need insulin and how much and how they know that? If you can answer that you will have disagreed with your own post here. That’s about 4 questions designed to set you along the right path. I don’t worry about high fat diets. I used to. I have been on a low carb high fat diet for two years and all my markers are perfect. My GP was astounded at my cholesterol levels. Look I know it’s all hard to grasp. But continual contention for what is help and good advice for many people isn’t good for anyone. Without posting pages and pages of material suffice to say the information is out there, but it doesn’t help having all the contradictory staff on the internet too as the initiated cannot sort the wheat from the chaff even if they wanted to. Once you have googled the right answer on T1 diabetics and insulin then we will be able to move on from there, but only if you want to. It doesn’t need reams of studies. It can be answered in just a paragraph.
John I don't harbour any doubts about the relationship between carbohydrates glucose and sugar, chemistry was my best subject at school, physics was a close second, starch is a polysaccharide and the breakdown of starch to glucose is much more complex than breaking down sugar or fructose and is a process requiring various enzymes. T1 diabetes is a condition where a person either makes no insulin or not enough insulin and without insulin glucose won't get into cells, no glucose no energy.
You didn't answer my question, but that is no surprise.. Do I read labels yes I do does that make me and the great unwashed who read labels gullible, no it doesn't, does it make your comment pompous yes it does. maybe you missed a discussion while you were banned where processed foods was discussed an my comment was that since my wife came over we rarely buy frozen and rarely buy processed however sometimes I am caught out on the road and have to buy lunch especially if I have had a night away from home. we at home had a debate a few weeks ago about our shopping bill and when we looked in detail we were spending something like 70% on fresh veg,fruit, and meat the rest went on toiletries wine and a couple of tins of black peas. I have said repeatedly the diet I am following is having benefits for me end of. So to be a blunt I dont give a monkeys f### for your views.
Home after work. I am not going to read through the earlier posts. The answer to the question @oss is this. T1 diabetics are characterised by the inability to produce insulin or pretty close to it. As a consequence they cannot deal with glucose in their blood. This is a massive handicap but fortunately insulin can and is manufactured and does the job instead. T1 diabetics walk a tightrope between too much blood glucose and too little. For this reason they require some glucose. But only some. They achieve this by calculating what amount of insulin they require for the food they eat. This means they have to calculate what is known as the carb/insulin ratio in the process. So if the meal contains 10 grams of carbs for example or even 50 grams of carbs the amount of insulin used is dependent on the amount of carbs in the snack or meal. How might they know if looking at a can of beans or any other packaged foods ? Yes, you have guessed it, they read the quantity of carbohydrates in the nutrients column and ignore the Traffic Light system and thus know how much insulin to use as their bodies cannot perform this function. This is globally known. Can they verify this? Yes and they do by blood glucose meter. And so you see this is part of the scientific evidence for the part that total carbohydrates and not just sugars play in our diets. Not some academic study. The astute will no doubt realise that the more carbs one consumes the more insulin one needs and the reverse is true which brings us back to the video I posted which featured Cracknell and GP Dr Ian Lake and you will notice what he has to say about carbs on the five day experiment. Now one can deny this, counter it, or disagree with it etc and it will achieve nothing except muddy the waters for others. I know this stuff is hard to follow and confusing but that is no reason to poohoo it just because on a forum such as this anyone has a right to give their opinion on anything, even if it is rowlocks.
Seems im not the only one who is fed up (being a kind word) here of this situation.. And yep. Wife had to use hsbc also https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...wwAA&usg=AOvVaw3ib6MSATB3Cw-_8-e7fWgS&cf=1
It is great that you are looking at the things we may or may not eat, John, but exercise is also very important for our well-being.
It is. However many people find as they get older that they cannot exercise in such a way that does the trick. Dr Aseem Malhotra mentions this in his recent podcast when he agrees exercise is healthy but underlines that by far the biggest impact is from what we eat and don’t eat. From a personal point of view I find that for exercise to have an impact I have to do a lot of it for it to be truly beneficial. In the last year I have been doing a lot of manual work and it does indeed make a significant difference. Lifting 20 to 30 kg weights for a full days work makes a difference. A brisk 30 minute walk has little to no impact on my health. There are a lot of people that find exactly the same. People who are sitting at a desk clicking a mouse, will struggle to find the time in the day for a big enough workout that will work off the doughnuts they had at lunchtime. There is a saying. You cannot work off a bad diet by exercise. And it is true. The diet comes first. Anyone notice Jurgen Klopp is a low carb protagonist? He was presented with this huge pasty but refused it saying he does not eat carbohydrates.
That was a bad publicity stunt. The smiles must have been before Ginsters found out he wouldn't eat it
are there any accurate up to date numbers for covid deaths in the UK--apart from the overall total ? i think we need to re-assess the true risk to people of working age. The country cannot be left to grind to a halt the way it looks like its going. if the real risk is to people over a certain age--say 65--then they can take measures to self -preserve by isolation to a degree--after all--they are most likely retired so no need to travel to work--especially by public transport. Shopping can in the main be done online--with home delivery. if the country is to get back to how it was 12 months ago--then risks just have to be taken.
It simply isn’t totally age related. If that were the case many healthy 65 yo would be isolating unnecessarily. It depends on each individuals underlaying health conditions as they who’s immune system is compromised are most likely to get picked off by Covid19.
So why cant the numbers show age ranges..and ethnicity..both important factors. Just how many of working age have died? How does the number compare to normal yearly numbers of deaths in that age range ?
See posts circa 1760 to 1763. Ethnicity is of course a factor, but underlaying health conditions (comorbidities) are also a massive factor. The New York Times article I posted highlights this quite well. So regardless of age, if you have underlaying other conditions then you will be more susceptible to the ravages of Covid 19. A healthy 65 yo is less likely to be “picked off” by it than an unhealthy 55yo.
yep--i know..ive seen or heard all the theories what i dont know is the actual numbers. how many over 65 have died all told how many 16-65 how many children
They aren’t theories. They are actual deaths. Someone else has been through them and compiled the stats so that you and I don’t have to. A lot of the data is in the public domain. The title of the New York Times report is: Nearly All Patients Hospitalized With Covid-19 Had Chronic Health Issues, Study Finds
but--is it ? here where i live we simply dont know the local numbers--other than the total..80. i suspect the vast majority are elderly / retired over 65 ( i heard of just one --in his early 60's--a taxi driver--who was one of the first here ) does the national picture mirror this ?
It’s being repeated globally. There is a lot of data out there and it’s all googleable but not necessarily laid on a platter. But I am off to sleep now.
The proportions haven't changed. Herd immunity is at this time a fiction people are getting this twice and potentially more than twice, plus herd immunity has never been achieved in nature it has always been in the context of vaccination programmes. The reason we are in this mess is because they gave everyone freedom back in July when the R0 was still 0.7 everyone goes on holiday mix, mix, mix they come back then the next thing is the kids go back to school and so do the universities and colleges, at the same time as people go back to the office and here we are back at an R0 somewhere around 1.5 and climbing. Knowing exactly how many 48 year olds died is not going to be very helpful on the graph below all you need to do is draw a curve through the middle of the blue bars for men to get a rough picture of deaths. But then deaths are not the only measure you need to consider all the people damaged by their first bout, how many of them will pass when they get their second bout. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...andandwalesprovisional/weekending9october2020 I had been optimistic about the virus being fairly fragile and that generally it would expire on most surfaces like plastic after a few days, turns out that is wrong, new research has shown viable SARS-Cov-2 virus on such surfaces after a month, it is a lot tougher than we imagined. It still expires quite quick on cardboard and fabrics but printed cardboard and paper might be a problem like most food containers, so relying on home delivery by an ever increasing population of infected asymptomatic young people does not make seniors safe. The whole lock up the elderly idea is bull and won't stop this nor will it achieve herd immunity because that notion might not even exist, and so far we have been lucky this thing has not mutated it is exactly the same to all intents and purposes as it was when it was discovered, it won't stay that way because it will evolve under the evolutionary pressures that we are imposing on it, lockdowns and the vaccine when that arrives. I should add I would be perfectly happy at this point to be locked up until a vaccine arrives but I'm lucky I can work at home, the only impact this has had on me is no cost of living increase this year and probably no Christmas bonus. Lots of others my age and older are still out there having to work for a living.
@bigmac I posted this source earlier. Have a read of it. It lists the key underlaying conditions. Oss found it useful. Sure the numbers go up with age but it isn’t age that is the root cause of susceptibility to the extreme ravages of Covid19. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/people-with-medical-conditions.html I think this might be the 3rd time I have posted this. Why is this important? Firstly so they don’t lockup healthy 65 yo and upwards and secondly so that those who are younger should know that they will be susceptible if they already have one or more of the conditions listed. Am getting ready for work. Catch yer later.
