David Attenborough: 'Climate Change 2007 predictions for 2020

When I lived in Malta back in the 90's, it would hit the the high 30's most of July and August, and on top of that, the Sahara Desert hot winds. It was unbearable at times and I would laugh at the crazy Brits on the beach being cooked alive. The locals knew better, stay out of the sun from 12 till 4.

Back to global warming, I'm somewhat saddened that the view seems to be,'not my problem guv, its the government innit'. We can all do our bit, but it seems we're all living in denial and hoping the government will fix it. Which they wont. I work in a supermarket where strawberries are shipped in during wintertime from South Africa. Really?! I think we're all heading for a nasty shock soon, and things we take for granted will no longer be there. The world cannot sustain rampant expansionism. It's all going to end horribly. Warnings have been issued, but largely ignored. I really fear for the future of this planet.

I kind of think that all of the types I mentioned, by no means an exhaustive list, are ignorant

Not sure how many people in the first world at least have not at least heard about the issue, I can imagine some people in the Philippines who might have completely missed all discussion of it and for the poor folks in countries like Afghanistan they have some rather larger immediate in your face issues that are going to get their attention far more.

Which is why I said I can imagine people in the Philippines who just would not be aware of it or if aware would not understand enough to know any better.

However not sure they can be classed as deniers, when you some to think about it to be a denier you have to have to at least have heard the argument and chosen to deny it in some form or other.

I should probably have been clearer in framing my original classification of denying types

I'd love an EV or hybrid, but on my wages, its a no go. But I'm hopeful prices will come down, and I will be able to afford one in the future. The infrastructure is starting to take shape, even here in remote Aberystwyth, there is a Tesla charging station, the big supermarkets have a charging point or two, so yeah, I cant see a problem owning an EV compared to say, a year ago, when there was only one charging point, 15 miles away.

I don't, both senior directors at my employer run fully electric vehicles as of quite recently, prior to that the owner and his wife ran top of the line hybrids, I think my boss's Porsche was a hybrid and we have had electric charging points at the front of the office for nigh on ten years now, from memory they went in shortly after we got an 8 kilowatt solar array installed on the roof and we have had the array for almost 10 years, paid for itself already 15 years of profits still to come

In my case I might consider an electric vehicle when I am older but the sunk carbon cost in my 20 year old vehicle means that over my five years of ownership keeping it running is diluting it's carbon manufacturing cost by spreading it over more years and in reality in that 5 years of ownership I have only done 12,000 miles, a car serves a very useful purpose in my life in terms of personal freedom even though I don't use it a lot now and in terms of carbon the manufacturing CO2 costs in building a new electric vehicle outweigh the savings in CO2 from scrapping and switching.

The next car I buy will be the last one I buy and even though my mileage might increase in retirement I could still probably make a greater contribution to the planet by extending the life of an older hydrocarbon burning vehicle.

I would certainly like one but I am unlikely to get one for the reasons I mention in my reply to John.

One of my nearby neighbours lives in a big old house with no driveway and owns a Tesla I often wonder how they charge it as the power cable would have to cross the pavement.

Just checked this town and there are 28 charging points in total most of them in public carparks some in other public facilities and only 3 in the largest local supermarket, but I admit to being surprised that there are so many here.

Governments have always used motorists as useful cash cows. However, the strategy of getting everyone into electric cars wont work until prices hit become more realistic. Labour in Wales have just announced a halt to all road building (except those already started), whilst on the other hand they bought Cardiff airport a while ago. I'm not sure what they are trying to achieve, but there is no consistency.

I'm afraid that 15 grand is way out of the league of the likes of me, I will never spend that much on a car again, I might if I decided to buy in the Philippines but that is very unlikely.

The thing about second hand electric vehicles is that they won't have the longevity of internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles because the the batteries will be degrading by the time it is about 10 years old, note the mileage of these batteries is huge but like any battery system the number of charge cycles and depth of charge are important.

It is true that some reports suggest a Tesla battery can withstand 40,000 cycles, do over 500,000 miles with only 10% degradation but in the real world regenerative braking is going to affect that the temperature environment the vehicle lives in and more.

Also they seem to be retaining their value rather well in the second hand market whether that will change dramatically as more and more second hand vehicles become available is another matter though.

If they end up retaining value and at the same time having degraded performance then electric vehicles are going to be something for the young and wealthier generation, a lot of oldies like me will end up skipping them.

There is of course the issue that by 2030 the fuel infrastructure will have to be radically changing in the UK, it will get harder eventually for second hand ICE car owners to find petrol stations and much easier to find charging points a bit like it getting hard for an oldie to find a post office but that is something I will just have to put up with.

The next car I buy in the UK will almost certainly be my last and I don't want to spend more than £5000 on it, it won't do huge miles per annum but it will need to be comfortable for occasional long motorway trips from Scotland, yeah I will keep contributing to the CO2 problem but the vehicles innate CO2 manufacturing energy cost will already have been paid so I will only be contributing CO2 from the fuel and maintenance.

I had been looking at cars but the model I want is still in the £6000 to £7000 range for the spec I want and it is quite rare so could be a problem in maintenance in future years, but it should last me 10 years at least, my current vehicle cost me £400 five and a half years ago and is still going strong.

Yeah, I think I have actually seen a power cable once or twice and they do park it up on the kerb a lot which is very selfish as there are enough people still pushing prams and buggies where I live and a good number of elderly on mobility scooters who get forced out on the road.

Not sure which model of Tesla it is, just thought to see if it was on google maps and it is, a bit naughty posting this but it is anonymous

I don't think the drive behind it is theirs, there is a drive ramp closer to the location of the camera but I think that belongs to another house too.