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Financial Requirement - Cash Savings - Premium Bonds & SIPP Pension Pot

Discussion in 'UK Visa and Immigration Help' started by John Surrey, Apr 9, 2015.

  1. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    Nice one, I've not checked yet.
  2. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    XXV again his month, better than last month's nothing.
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  3. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Are premium bonds worth having for a newborn, say£100 worth and is Earnie still running the show ?
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    Br28016 Active Member Trusted Member

    Sure that someone with £100 managed to win the £1m not that long.

    That said the way the odds work does not favour the smaller holding. Odds of a prize winning are approximately 22000 to one so £100 holding means that should have a 220 to one odds of winning a prize in each draw. After 220 draws or nearly 18 years should get at least one prize which on current prize structure means £25. Unfortunately this is all probability and resets on every draw so no guarantee of success or getting one prize in the 18 year period but conversely could result in early win far in excess of investment.

    As an investment I would say no and better to put into something with more guarantee of pay out. For entertainment and chance of a mega payout then why not as at least get original money back
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    ERNIE is a true random number machine it's been upgraded and improved for decades, the draw is fair.

    I bought £100 for my grand daughter last year, my own holding is £7450, I have been lucky beyond my holding, for me it's fun and I think everyone should have a small stake in the Premium Bonds, yeah you might never win anything but then again you might.
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  6. John Surrey
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    John Surrey Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    To Rodney:

    "This time next year we'll be millionaires" :D
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  7. John Surrey
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    John Surrey Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    CXXV ... maybe next month then :D
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  8. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    Nothing this time!
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  9. John Surrey
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    John Surrey Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    CL :like:
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  10. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    Nothing again, I'm probably going to cash in a large part of my holdings.

    It's been fun in the good times.
  11. John Surrey
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    John Surrey Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    But you'll always be wondering whether you might have won the big one ... :D
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  12. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    Yes that's true, but it's also true of every decision any of us ever made in our lives.

    In quantum mechanics every decision or measurement creates a branch of reality, every second the world you personally inhabit with your mind experiences 10 to the power 'f*ck knows' (but a very large number) of branches, your consciousness inhabits one of them, that one is not the same one I find myself in now with another version of you who will reply to this post:cool:

    Real life is feckin amazing and maybe the next branch taken in the next femtosecond results in me winning next month with a much smaller holding, however the odds are seriously against that:):lol:

    edit: I probably got the scale wrong, likely closer to a quectosecond :D
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  13. John Surrey
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    John Surrey Well-Known Member Trusted Member

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    Hmmm... try to stay positive :D
  14. John Surrey
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    John Surrey Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Actually @oss what do you think of gold - it's very high at the moment - presume that's largely because of Trump!

    Where do you see it going in the next 5 - 10 years ?
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    So a vandal comes in and f*cks the bond market, now nobody trusts the dollar and everyone wants out of US t-bonds cause they're terrified that the liar in chief and his cronies will convert the entire US debt into 100 year bonds effectively defaulting on their debt.

    So where does the money go, well even though everyone knows that equities are overvalued they put their money into stocks, propping up the bubble in stocks, they also redirect some investment into other countries bonds but who knows if those are safe either, so scared of bonds and equities a lot of capital gets diverted into precious metals and the price explodes and on top of that a bunch of these feckin nutters gamble on metal futures, because none of them do anything actually useful, no no no they just gamble with borrowed money.

    Then the morons that created this crisis appoint a fecking Epstein file sicko as chair of the fed one who is said to support lowering intrest rates which the sicko in chief is desperate for, this pushes up bond yields and triggers a cascade sell off in gold and silver as the gamblers leveraged positions get shown up by margin calls that they cant fund, so sell off after sell off.

    What do I know I'm a 67 year old idiot with a heart condition, I wouldn't presume to have any idea where all this will go in 5 to 10 years and I'll probably be dead anyway, but in the short term I think gold will probably continue to rise (and silver) if for no other reason than there are few other places to put investment cash.

    Thing is a lot of the gold price is 'paper gold' it's not real it's just Exchange Traded Funds it's not the yellow metal that gets dug out of the ground.

    Real gold well that has legitimate value in electronics and other technologies but it's not a lot of use in a crashed post technological world you can't eat it it's inappropriate for construction, it's only appeal is to the warlords that will be ruling over you who get mesmerised by shiny things.

    For me gold is facinating only because of the way that most of it comes to exist in this universe, the vast majority of the gold we find in this world was created billions of years ago, before the solar system formed, in the collisions of pairs of neutron stars.

    So I don't know what way it will go, my guess is up for a year or two until the next major financial crash, the current metals crash I think is very temporary as there's not a lot of places to park money.

    edit: my personal holding is 10g of 14 carat gold in the form of a necklace that Ana got me to buy about 15 years ago, she's had her eye on disappearing it for the last 15 years but she's out of luck as it's never travelling to the Philippines ever again.
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    Who's not positive I only multiplied the number of universe branches by an extra 10^15 every second:D
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  17. John Surrey
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    John Surrey Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Some Good News:

    The DWP IPC Review Team have, a year later, got back to me and advised:
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    That will actually mean, assuming I pay them the £3,660.80, my pension will jump from £205.88 (£204.90 +4.8%)/week to £241.30 for the next pension year !

    That's an increase of £1,841.84 p.a.

    So, assuming I live, I'll get my money back in 2 years :like:

    I'm wondering whether they've cocked it up a bit as I must have contracted out at some time so I thought that meant I could never get the maximum ???
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    No I was contracted out for around 15 years and I'm on the full (new) state pension, what you lose with contracting out is the SERPS and S2P additional amount that would have increased your pension above the current maximum for the new state pension, what's important is the total number of years, I think I had 48 but the required amount is 35 I think.

    People who paid SERPS and S2P and who were never contracted out would have been entitled to substantially more than the £241.30 per week and as a result their SERPS and S2P rights were protected and factored into the calculation of their weekly rate. In my case under the old state pension rules I would have gotten less than the new state pension when calculating the old state pension + SERPS and S2P so anyone in that position actually won out and got uprated to the new state pension maximum, those who were never contracted out can get a lot lot more per week, some people are on more than £350 a week under the new rules because they were never contracted out and paid possibly Graduated Pension, SERPS and S2P throughout their working lives but retired after the new rules came into effect in 2016.

    The new state pension was brought in to simplify the calculations (aye sure) but it's going to take 30 odd years or more before there's no one left with the need for the consideration of their SERPS and S2P contributions.

    Are you sure that paying more now while you are in receipt of your state pension already will actually increase your pension payment?
  19. John Surrey
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    John Surrey Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    I see.

    Yes, that's what they say in their letter:

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    I delayed paying some of the missing years previously because I knew I could do it later.

    Seems like a no brainer to me.
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    Just a question are you dealing with the International Pension Centre, this lot International Pension Centre - GOV.UK is that where your letter came from?

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