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Foreigners murdered in the Philippines

Discussion in 'Rant and Rave' started by CatchFriday, Apr 15, 2017.

  1. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    Violence towards you when you cannot control your bodily functions is quite severe :eek:
  2. Jim
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    Jim Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    He is an Austrian, not an Australian and it took place near where I live.
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  3. Bootsonground
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    We all know the risks here and in the rest of the world... If it happens,it happens!!
    One in the nut is not such a bad demise since it`s effects on general health are usually instant..
    After considering the alternatives,I could think of worse and slower much more painful ways to reach our inevitable and sure end..
    So..While we are alive..Live,love and PARTY!!!
    (till we get one in the the nut and have our previous life dissected on local Fake news)
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    A 61-year-old Austrian has been shot dead by by two unidentified assailants in Valencia town, Dumaguete.

    Franz Kremser who was staying at the E&K Residence in Barangay Combado, was shot dead at about 11.20am yesterday (Wednesday, March 28).

    Chief Inspector Ronoel Fungo, chief of the Valencia Municipal Police Station, said officers were now hunting for a woman who was with the victim before he was shot and killed.


    Investigation showed that Mr Kremsmer was driving a motorcycle with the woman riding pillion behind him.

    Eyewitnesses have told investigators that he stopped his bike in front of two men who had been waiting by side of the road.

    A few minutes later, four shots were fired and the foreigner was found slumped on the ground by local barangay Captain Edward Albina, who informed the police.


    Mr Kremser’s female companion is yet to be identified or located.

    http://philippineslifestyle.com/hunt-female-austrian-tourist-shot-dumaguete/
  5. Stellar
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    I find it difficult to believe that the woman has not been identified but apparently even though the victim's ACR card has him as a local resident, local nobody seems to know him.

    We all know the risks here and in the rest of the world.

    I wouldn't try to make out that this might easily have happened in Shepton Mallet if I were you. Apparently 200,000 Filipinos live in Britain, and I can't remember hearing about even one of them, that ever got murdered.

    While 10-15 foreigners get shot dead in the Philippines like this, every year, and year after year, like clockwork.
  6. Sanders
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    So summarising the postings then, owing to a state of relative lawlessness in the country, for an older foreigner settling in the Philippines, he as a foreigner is at risk of taking one in the nut if prevailing trends are anything to go by? That being the case, we know the risks involved so would want to take those risks into account if considering leaving the U.K. for the Philippines.

    On balance, that seems to be the underlying essence of the thread?

    I notice a YouTube video on the topic, here:

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  7. Mattecube
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    No nor Salisbury! Sleepy little place as Russians know.
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  8. Bootsonground
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    So taking all that into account...As an aging foreigner,I assume you wont be coming back..
    Every cloud..... as they say!!
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  9. aposhark
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    I remember this sad story as it was not too far from where I was living.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/crime-files-reopened-man-who-6831616

    Seems like the murderer killed out of jealousy.
  10. Stellar
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    thank you. Not surprised there has been at least one UK murder with a Filipino victim considering the community if of considerable size but considering the number of UK residents in the Philippines is so much smaller, they do get murdered far more often than it seems Filipinos in Britain do. None of the most recent murder victims have been British but over the past maybe 12 years, there must have been maybe 6-8 of them and not all men either. One of them was a woman.

    however there may have been more murders of Filipinos in the UK than that one. You remember that one because it was an especially gruesome murder. Whereas a more routine murder, like of a Filipino wife, by a Filipino husband in the UK in a domestic-type incident would not have been reported to anything like the same extent.

    Arminda's 1991 murder is a sad story and cause for reflection. The poor girl. She marries this British bloke 30 plus years older than her, and migrates to Britain to start a new life, and begin an exiting new adventure. She was just getting it together with all these Welsh farmer boys when her life was so cruelly taken away from her.

    RIP.

    '52 year old Mr Perry met 20 year old Arminda in a bar.'

    LOL
  11. Markham
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    Have you ever considered that the reason nobody appears to have known him might be that he chose to keep a low profile so as not to draw attention to himself ?
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    What is so funny about that? Another offensive post from you
  13. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Where' the dumb rating gone?
  14. Sanders
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    I was summarising the salient points of the thread. Not drawing a conclusion. I leave the conclusions to be drawn to others.

    I might well settle over there. I know the risks, they are clearly outlined in previous posts and I know the means of mitigation. I also have the financial means too.
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  15. Sanders
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    This chap gives us some tips.



    Razor wire and a pitbull terrier. Mind you mattresses can be used to deal with razor wire.

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  16. Stellar
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    plenty of foreigners keep a low profile around there in that section of Negros. Nothing wrong with that, and in fact I often say that the number of foreigners anywhere is only half of what the expat consensus thinks that there is. Quite a lot of them never ever ever go to expat places for a variety of reasons. They don't like other expats in the Philippines but only Filipinos, that does not mean that they are antisocial though. Some of them are just private and 'lone hunters'. Others are old and infirm and cannot go anywhere far even if they wanted to. They are unknown, invisible.

    which is fine until somebody gets murdered. The cops swarm around everybody who they think ought to know them but to their surprise, they find that nobody does.

    however I would be surprised if the Dumaguete police have not discovered the identity of this woman or the two men by now. If they don't then they should get somebody good in from a bigger city like Bacolod or Cebu to sort them out. These small police departments in small towns like Tagbilaran (last one) and Dumaguete may not be up to scratch with murder investigations.
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  17. aposhark
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    Yes the beginning of the post had some good points but the "LOL" was inappropriate in the context of her sad death.
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  18. PorkAdobo
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    Why concentrate solely on the Filipino community in the UK?

    This thread is about "foreigners" in the Philippines.

    If the the thread title is swung around to "foreigners" in the UK, there are, unfortunately, many foreigners who meet their demise annually in this country. It's only by chance that there are not more or fewer Filipinos in these statistics.

    Overall, particularly given the nature of the shady world that many Chinese and Korean ex-pats inhabit in the Philippines plus the higher levels of poverty among the locals, why would anyone expect a similar murder rate in the UK?
  19. Markham
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    I don't know why you think that the Cebu Police would be any better at solving a murder case than their colleagues in Dumaguete. Fact is that they are wholly incompetent. They have failed to bring little Ellah Joy's murderer to justice preferring to pursue two foreigners, one of whom was provably at 36,000 feet above Hong-Kong at the time of her death.

    Many foreign residents.have little or no faith in a.police service riven in corruption from the top down. They will studiously avoid contact with police officers for reasons of self-preservation, hence their reluctance to admit knowing other foreigners. And the presumption of innocence is often only notionally applied where foreigners are concerned.

    There is a cultural reluctance to investigate victims' family members in cases such as Ellah Joy's which is why her killer remains at large.
  20. Jim
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    got all that, grills on windows and razor-wire 3 dogs and a wife. Just looking into CCTV setup.

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