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Freedom of Movement

Discussion in 'News from the UK, Europe and the rest of the World' started by Anon220806, Sep 19, 2020.

  1. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    This is exactly what has been going on in the UK for years, John.
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  2. Anon220806
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

    Exactly. But the focus is now on what will happen at the end of next month. Will the immigration restrictions be enough to stem the influx (as described earlier in the thread) or will freedom of movement continue as described by me a few posts back or as described by @Daveyw1988 ?

    Before there was freedom of movement. At the end of the year that ends (in theory).
  3. Druk1
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    Druk1 Well-Known Member

    If it continues as normal then all of the drama on both sides will be for naught :D
  4. Anon220806
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

    Exactly.
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  5. Daveyw1988
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    Daveyw1988 Active Member

    Love to be proven wrong on this one but i cant see it makin any change..i doubt every single eu person who want to come here are goin to be checked by home office and immigration...just not going to happen.. To. Much work and theh are lazy.. So it upto the recruiter... I. E the agencies etc
  6. Druk1
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    Druk1 Well-Known Member

    I know a food processing business owner who is making 100% sure his Portuguese passport holding Indian (goa) staff are legit so he doesn't get fined.
  7. Anon220806
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

    The agencies will set it all up. There is money to be made for them.
  8. Druk1
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    Druk1 Well-Known Member

    I have already seen it mentioned on an immigration lawyers website :ninja:
  9. CatchFriday
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    CatchFriday British Expat living in Alicante, Spain

    I am currently waiting for the UKVI to approve our application under Sandra Singh under the European Family Permit, and I satisfy in any case the salary amount. We are in Alicante and will just get my wife the British resident card for 5 years and sell the house,and return to Alicante. My wife is a Spanish resident now.
    I am working full-time for the NHS as a Team Leader on Track and Trace from Alicante.
    No cases of COVID here
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  10. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    'Sandra Singh' :lol:

    I will grant you that your phone probably did an autocorrect there :D it is of course the Surinder Singh route.
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  11. DavidAlma
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    DavidAlma Well-Known Member

    Is the Surinder Singh route still an option? Doubt it will be after December 31st
  12. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    I cannot understand what you mean. Are you trying to get your wife into the UK but without the visa fees.? Then go back to spain?
  13. Druk1
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  14. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Its a neat move to do this as long as they can convince UKBA
    The Home Office view is that if the British citizen in question “genuinely” resided with the relevant family member in another member state as a worker, self employed person, self sufficient person or student then the British citizen will be treated by the UK government as an EU citizen and can rely on the family reunion rules that apply to EU citizens. According to the case of O and B, whether residence is genuine depends simply on whether the terms of Article 7(1) and (2) and Article 16(1) and (2) of Directive 2004/38. The UK position is that much more is needed; according to the 2016 regulations, factors to be considered in assessing whether residence is genuine include:

    (a) whether the centre of the British citizen’s life transferred to the EEA State;

    (b) the length of the family member and British citizen’s joint residence in the EEA State;

    (c) the nature and quality of the family member and British citizen’s accommodation in the EEA State, and whether it is or was the British citizen’s principal residence;

    (d) the degree of family member and British citizen’s integration in the EEA State;

    (e) whether the family member’s first lawful residence in the EU with British citizen was in the EEA State

    You will search in vain for any reference to these factors in Surinder Singh or O and B v Netherlands; they are all unilaterally invented by the
  15. Anon220806
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

  16. Daveyw1988
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    Daveyw1988 Active Member

    I gave up and laughed when i see the cutting edge technology part of moving good etc... Whst a joke they got the virus and ppe totally and utterly wrong.. Spend millions on dodgy ones also... The country is a mess and they arent fooling anyone anymore
  17. CatchFriday
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    CatchFriday British Expat living in Alicante, Spain

    Obtained permission to bring my wife in from Spain via this way. Costs of Application were due to the nature of urgency, spent €250.
  18. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    So youre both coming to the UK for a while..then going back to.live in Spain
    ?
  19. CatchFriday
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    CatchFriday British Expat living in Alicante, Spain

    You know everything looks green when your sitting in the grass in the garden, but really life gets complicated, and in answer to your question I don't know yet.
    Last Friday I was told by the NHS that I cannot work from Spain, because the data is not secure, which means that I can only work from the UK.
    On Wednesday the TLC office in Madrid informed us that they were sending my wife's passport back to her. Then I looked at the address they were sending it to - it wasn't ours. So I phoned DHL to inform them of our correct address - they then said the Sender could only change the address, and we could not. Only in Spain I thought - bungling incompetence. They were sending the passport to our landlady's address. Then they said they could not deliver it, as no-one was there - I felt like pulling my hair out. Finally after paying taxis we collected her passport yesterday at 6pm. I booked the return to the UK for Monday 14th December.

    My wife and I love living in Alicante for the warm environment. The option will of course be to return there later, but as to calling it - too early.
    Last edited: Dec 6, 2020
  20. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    I get exasperated sometimes.

    What is your actual reply to Malcolm, you quoted his post but you made NO reply.

    Really there is a certain etiquette on internet forums and replying in good faith and a friendly manner to a question is fundamental to creating a thread that the majority of people can understand.

    Non sequiturs and blanks help no one, what are you actually trying to communicate to us?

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