Having a baby

Hi All, so i have browsed the forum and i can find differing things but nothing that matches what me and my Fiancee are wondering so i hope it is ok to ask here.

So i am UK born and bred and met my amazing Fiancee a while ago and she lives in the Philippines, i have been and visited her lots of times but her parents hate me because i wouldnt keep giving them more and more money as it was getting more and more silly and over demanding so we want to marry but have to wait till she is 21 as we will never have their permission i get that.

now the complicated bit!

So now we are talking about having a baby before we are married, but need to fully understand the implications first never mind the fact that i wouldnt be there all the time etc. so that is why i am here to ask what happens if we have a baby, what happens with nationality, what happens if we dont marry and split up and all the good and bad things that can happen with a baby.

and more complicated!!!

Also there is a chance that i might be able to perm move to India as i work here a lot so again wondering what marriage and living implications that will have for us in the future

Thanks for reading and replying

I say proceed with any of your plans with great caution.
if her parents already hate you then in my mind it's not a good basis for your future life together.
Will your girl come to resent the fact there is friction between you and her parents.
What if your girl comes over and in time starts a job and wants to send money home but not contribute to yours and hers life.
A lot of id's and buts tread carefully and good luck

why dont you get married first and then start a family when the dust has settled?

I hope you realise that between the age of 21 and 25 any Filipino wanting to marry in the Philippines must obtain guidance advice from their parents and signed documentationof having received that advice (signed by parents and person between 21 and 25 ) is presented to the registrar.

Oh woow that's something I did not know...love coming here and learning more..had no idea that was the case

not sure it dapplies over here though! it is worth you checking the exact requirements from the registrar over here

because we do not want to wait, we have considered that as well but we are ready for a family

she wants nothing to do with them, i love her and she loves me, never want to see parents again

have spoken to a lawyer already and someone on another forum and legally we can marry from 21 without her parents consent, that is what i have found and confirmed

And you believe that? Sounds like something someone would say in a strop.

DO NOT have a child,you have already mentioned what happens if you split up,how old are you?Her parents want you to send every single penny you earn my nephews girlfriend's waster mother wanted my nephews girlfriend to ditch him as he wasn't sending enough cash his girlfriends here now,she cant work due to her visa,her mum is livid and has blocked her on facebook Yup,filipinas often have that "sweet" child-like (childish) mentality

No Filipina in all of history will turn her back on her family. She may feel that way now, but that will change. Family ties are much stronger than in any western society. Proceed with caution.

The girl has only just stopped being a teenager (or maybe still is a teenager?). Many Filipinas (especially provincial) are very naïve and immature.

Out of interest, what is your age? Are you born in 1976? If so, even though you have the romantic interest, the reality is that a 43 year old foreigner with a 20 year old Filipina from a poor family (assumption given your comments about demanding money) will be taking on a mentor and father figure role.

Unless this girl's parents are locking her in a cellar and beating her each night, it will be a recipe for disaster if you move such a young girl to a new country with bad blood between her and her parents. She will resent you for it in future months. Guaranteed.

why comment on what she thinks or how etc., i do not need to tell you the full back story to this, again please do not presume anything, if you have no helpful comment then what is the point in posting? i did not join here to be judged by anyone

wow you people all presume so much and i do not need to justify anything to anyone, you do not know me or her or anything that has happened and you have no right to, age has nothing to do with it, you know nothing on my background or hers.

Am pretty shocked at the replies, i ask for advice and you all seem to think i have to justify myself to you, nice to know there are so many bigoted views. all very helpful

have you been on this site before ?

nope and dont think i will be back either, i ask for advice not for people to presume, or judge or question my motives

Defensive Mr Adobo was correct then.

are you serious???? im not defensive im saying its none of your fecking business, you want me to tell you all about her and what her parents did to her??? you can all go to hell

You ask for advice (from very experienced people) but are not willing to consider it in an adult manner.

Fool.

Good luck.