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Help please. new FLR M online Application

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself' started by AyieSmith, Nov 17, 2018.

  1. AyieSmith
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    AyieSmith New Member

    I need help please. I will be submitting my FLR M application next week and I have noticed that they have updated the online form from Nov 9, 2018. We have been trying to book a premium service appointment but there are no slots available so we decided to to it by post (paper form). However, there is another update at Gov.Uk that flr m application can only be done online then post the documents or attend to premium service centre. The paper form can only be used by people who are allowed for fee waiver.
    We then started to do the online application and then the confusion started?
    In the online form, we are asked to provide 12 months bank ( we have only prepared 6 because this is new update from the dystem so we have to get the rest.A nd 12 payslips ( no options for cat a, b and so on) We are on cat a by the way.

    The form asks if we have children together and if er have children from another person.
    -My husband has a child from previous relationship (not married)
    - I have a child from previous marriage (annuled)

    There is list on the form that we have to tick that says we have to submit birth certificate of his child and my child even though they are not applying with me. Plus we have to provide a birth cert and proof of address the children's other paren t. (irrelevant) on top of that the form requires us to provide solr responsibility despite us answrring that the two children is not applying.

    There is a long list of documents that is irrelevant to the flr m.

    I am so sorry for the long thread, I just need help and clarification. Are there any new requirements like that. I hope somebody can shed some light.

    I though I have all the necessary documents already.
    From the basic reqyiremtns such as Marriage cert, annulment documents, financial docs, accomodation documents, cohabitation documrnts etc.

    Thank you in advance.
  2. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    we have just applied online for my wife's 2nd FLR. i started to fill it out early november--then a headline appeared saying applications after 5th november wouldnt need photos --and documents could be copies OR originals. so we delayed till after 5th november.

    i cant recall seeing anything about 12 months payslips or bank statements---but i was using savings only anyway.

    as regards children--when is a child not a child ? mine are all long past 21. so i never included them.

    hers are 21 and 12. at first we put both on the form--although neither are applying. the form then required reams of documents--especially about her ex husband. seems like ukvi are really hitting on the joint responsibility issue.

    so we cleared that part of the form--omitting the 21 year old entirely. as for the 12 year old--we put that he is not here in the UK--as his settlement application was refused earlier this year. ( the application was over a year ago--took months to process ). even put down his app reference number.
    then there was an option to delete that child from the form--which i did--so no more intrusive unnecessary waste of space questions.

    she then did her biometrics on the 7th--and finally the documents pack went off to sheffield on tuesday--signed for next day delivery--which it has been.

    i think the online form demands far more information than the printable writable forms. time will tell now if we are successful or whether we answered some nebulous question incorrectly. i sent copies ONLY of all documents--except her passport and BRP card. also my passport rather than copying all the blank pages.

    we qualify on the main sponsorship points--financial and a home of our own. but i learned from my mistakes with her sons failed application----sometimes there is no right or wrong answer. i answered truthfully--and handed them my ass on a plate.

    i'm not suggesting you--or anyone else reading this----do the same as i did--you need to pick your own way through the minefield.
  3. AyieSmith
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    Thank you @bigmac for your detailed response. We were thinking of deleting the information about his and my child too last night. However, I am just worried that we seem to be withholding information if we do that. I have all the relevant docs regarding my son but no details of his as the child stays with the mother full time.

    We will just explain on a letter about the documents we don't have like 'the other parent's birth certificate. (Not sure how they expect people to have past relationship documentations such as birth cert and utility bills)

    I used to be straight forward but this new form is really stressful.

    We can only do what we can do now.
  4. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    just state the reason why your child isnt applying with you. do i take it you never applied for a settlement visa for your child ?
  5. AyieSmith
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    AyieSmith New Member

    @bigmac We have not yet applied for his application just yet as I have been unwell for the past year. We are just finishing his school year. We would probably use some help from an immigration lawyer for his application. Sole responsibility is quite hard to prove when you are living thousand miles away from your child.
  6. bigmac
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    tell me about it !!

    in our case--the childs father is still alive and lives near the boy--same village. so--as far as sole responsibility--no way according to UKVI.
  7. Maharg
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    Maharg Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    I'm sure you don't need to provide all this stuff.

    My guess is that you are looking at the check list at the end, where you tick the enclosed documents. Just leave blank whst isn't enclosed.

    It's a major change in recent months if you need all this stuff. Maybe you could post some links up so people can check what you are reading?
  8. bigmac
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    cant leave any questions unanswered--the page freezes if you do--you cannot go any further.

    the checklist is created in the software as a result of your answers to the questions. so you have to tick the boxes
  9. Maharg
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    Maharg Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    I never liked online applications and always did paper ones. Quite shocked this option has been taken away.

    I'm glad we got it all out the way before it went online only.
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    We have just completed this form and like you were asked to provide her late husbands birth certificate aswell as his death certificate, here was my response

    "We have provided the death certificate of Mr Vicente Ja*** the biological father of Kate Ja*** you will note he passed away in 2010 since that time Ms Jacob and her daughters have become increasingly distant from Mr Ja*** side of the family and we are not in a position to approach them for a birth certificate.

    I note from our previous successful spouse application the above requirement was not required"
  11. Mrs.Watson
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    Hi, i got 12 bank statements as well in my online form its because i have to tick the DLA thing so it says you have to provide within 12 months of receiving benefits (sponsor's) etc.
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  12. AyieSmith
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    I'm not sure why the online form asked for 12 months. My husband and I had been working with the same company for nearly 3 years.
    In my previous spouse we only provided 6 months.
  13. Mrs.Watson
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    If your partner is receiving any benefits be it working tax credit or any public funds online form will tell you to provide them during within 12 month period of bank statements. In my case, he is receiving child benefit also plus the DLA so i have to provide 12 month bank statements.
  14. Mrs.Watson
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    Hi i was away for nearly a year from my daughter then I applied her visa to join me. All you need is a sole responsibility affidavit that you are supporting him financially and looking after him even if you're far away i.e consulted in education decisions, health etc. At first I find it hard but i got her visa.
  15. AyieSmith
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    My husband does not receive any benefits or any public funds. We both work full time on permanent basis. That's why I was surprised. It must be part of the system update. Anyhow, we provided 12months statements, 12 payslips.

    We sent the documents today and done the biometrics as well. Submitted the online form last Saturday.

    THE WAITING GAME
  16. AyieSmith
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    I was a student when I met my husband. FROM 2008 Then went back home to get married and back here in England. Maybe it is a case to case basis. I have few friends here who applied for their children and got refused due to them leaving the children behind for 8 years in the care of their grandparents, although they visit their children every year.
    So I am quite hesitant to process my sons application on our own. We'll cross the bridge when we get there. I am in constant communication with the school, teachers, dentist, parish where he goes. And I also have a statement of arrangement of children signed by his father that he does not see the child and that the child stays under my care. We are collating more evidence to prove. Remittance,communications logs with school admin, teachers, doctors and dentist for his appointments etc.
  17. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    The only time the online system asks for 12 months wage slips and bank statements is if you have responded to the question " have you had more than one employer in the last 12 months" you may of responded yes instead of no.
    It's nothing to worry over
  18. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    from our own experience--the next time we apply for a settlement visa for my wifes son---we will use a specialist UK immigration lawyer. if the childs father is still around--i am convinced UKVI will regard it as joint resposibility---and refuse. how can you prove the father doesnt share the responsibility ?

    who knows--maybe if the brexit circus finally leaves town then british immigration will take a more humane attitude to family life in the UK.

    time will tell--and we still have time.
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  19. Mrs.Watson
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    True, some questions are very confusing Goodluck!

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