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Home Office splits British man from his wife 10 months after she gives birth to their daughter

Discussion in 'General Chit Chat' started by HaloHalo, Oct 10, 2017.

  1. HaloHalo
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    HaloHalo Administrator Staff Member

    Hmmm having read this, although I acknowledge his situation I don’t feel I can sympathise with his situation. He didn’t follow the rules and seemingly didn’t attempt to.

    A British man has been told his Ecuadorian wife cannot settle in the UK despite the couple having three young children, including a baby who is still breastfeeding.

    Dan Newton, 41, lived with his wife and three young children in Abu Dhabi in the UAE for nearly five years. The couple had previously lived in the UK for a year, where they had their first child.


    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...blocked-abu-dhabi-despite-child-a7990816.html
  2. bigmac
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    rules are rules. we may not like them--but have to comply with them.
  3. Maharg
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    Yes, rules are rules and we have no choice but to abide with them. It is, however, grossly unfair. He should, as a British citizen, be able to bring his family into his own country. The rest of the eu would allow it.

    Sure, no public funds for however long, but let them in. The rules for married couples are ridiculous.
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  4. DJB
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    This guy is obviously not a people trafficker or anyone attempting anything illegal, if he agrees to let them live here with out any help from the tax payer then so what?

    He is just a victim of stupid circumstance.

    let him and his family in I say
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  5. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    As one of the comments in the article said..it's a non story. All he has to do is find a job in the UK paying £18600 and in 6 months she can apply. His kids are British subjects.

    Or...of course..they can all stay put and find another job there. He chose to live there.
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  6. Mattecube
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    And whilst living there what has he paid into the UK coffers?
  7. Maharg
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    Shouldn't have to do that. He has young children.

    I am often very cynical about these press stories, but this is one occasion where it seems wrong to force a family to split in such a way.
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  8. bigmac
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    so lets say his wife already has ILR from before 2012. ( perfectly feasible )...

    they live where they are now--he loses his job. it happens all the while. so does he uproot them all and come back to the UK--to live--where ? while he looks for a job ?

    or does he come back first--maybe rents a cheap room--finds a job--gets stuck in--then finds a suitable home--then send for them when he is established ?

    nah. give her a free settlement visa now. then they can all come back to--nothing. will probably need income support and housing benefit for a while. but thats ok.

    oh--and can we all get our partners visa fees refunded ? fair does.
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  9. Mattecube
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    And the Nhs surcharge!
  10. CampelloChris
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    I'm sorry but everyone else who has jumped through a myriad of hoops, some moving, some aflame, in order to bring their wives to the UK should just stand aside and let this bloke, wife and kids circumvent the rules? And having spent thousands following the rules meticulously, allow him to get in free of charge?

    @bigmac - he actually needs a job paying £27,200 as there are three kids to be taken into account.

    Solution? She is Ecuadorian - I'm sure the Spanish would take her in without too much hassle. He has the right. Get stuck into living in Spain for a year and then move back without a murmur from the Immigration Gestapo. He could even work in the UK and commute.
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  11. bigmac
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    no--the kids are british --dont need visas--or the extra earnings requirement
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  12. Mattecube
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    Mattecube Gone Trusted Member

    I can't see any possibility that a married women coming to the UK with an unemployed husband with 3 kids wouldn't benefit from his and their benefits ie social housing unemployment benefits.
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  13. Maharg
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    Yeah, I jumped through the hoops and we're still jumping. Doesn't make it right though.

    The sooner people don't need to go through such crap, the better as far as I am concerned. Even if we did have to do it ourselves.

    A British citizen should be able to live in Britain with his family.
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  14. bigmac
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    the thing is--the earnings requirement is meant to stop immigrants being forced to claim benefits--although they arent allowed to claim for 5 years anyway ! thankfully--the earnings rule hasnt been increased since its inception 5 years ago. if it had been increased in line with the visa fees it would be catastrophic for many. but then if it reduced the number of applicants the fees income would be reduced too.!
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  15. bigmac
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    disagree ? fat thumb strikes again ?
  16. HaloHalo
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    Id say the majority would have no sympathywith this story. How can trying to bend/ignore the rules be fair to those who have adhered to them? Just aint cricket.
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  17. Maharg
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    Is it? I thought it was because David Cameron gave impossible net immigration targets so decided to pick on married couples.
  18. CampelloChris
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    @KeithAngel - lots of 'disagree' button pressing from you (to bigmac and myself), but little in the way of posting an opinion. What's your take on the situation? Mine was that the rules are there so that everyone is treated equally and consistently. Whether or not the rules should exist at all is a matter for great debate, but there they are. Our protagonist in this story appears to believe that they don't apply to him, and unsurprisingly, his situation has garnered little in the way of sympathy from members on this forum, most of whom have slain their own dragon in order to bring their wife to the UK.
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  19. Markham
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    I agree with BigMac - it was to counter the long held perception by some that Britain was being flooded by immigrants many of whom came to take advantage of our Welfare State. My personal belief is that joining spouses are far less likely to claim benefits than single unattached migrants so the wrong targets are being attacked.
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  20. DJB
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    Its right to say that everyone should be treated equally and consistently, can there ever be an exception ?? This chap in question maybe did not even realize how much off an ass ache this whole procedure is. I still think there should be exceptions in certain circumstances and while I understand what a lot of people have gone through on here, to be with their Mahal I don't think two wrongs make a right.
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