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Ian Brady dies in prison

Discussion in 'News from the UK, Europe and the rest of the World' started by Timmers, May 15, 2017.

  1. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Good riddance to the most notorious child killer in British history, a truly evil man.

    Just wish this murderer would have told the family of Keith Bennett where his body was buried before dying.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-39929538
  2. tipipay
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    tipipay Active Member

    Saw this in the news earlier. I feel sorry for the family of Keith Bennett not knowing the location of his remains. :(
  3. Aromulus
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    Aromulus The Don Staff Member

    When life really means life............
    He should have been hung, really, together with that witch he was shacked up with.
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  4. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    The death penalty ended not long before the trail of Brady and Hindley, but as one top policeman said, "there should have been an exception in their case."

    I always utter the words "God bless" when I drive past Saddleworth Moor on the M62, its a bleak place at the best of times and I always think of those poor kids alone with those murderers, they must have been petrified beyond comprehension.

    In a way I think it was good the pair didn't succumb to the hangman's rope as them being allowed to live has long served as a poignant reminder of just how evil people like this can be.

    I really hope that one day the grave of Keith Bennett is found, his family has been searching for so many years in vain.

    In my view Brady should have been beaten to a pulp until he confessed to the whereabouts of the little lads grave.
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  5. graham59
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    graham59 Banned

    Should have hung the pair of them decades ago... after having extracted the truth from them by whatever means. How much has their incarceration cost the taxpayers of this country ?

    There also needs to be a proper deterrent.
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  6. DavidAlma
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    DavidAlma Well-Known Member

    Agree 100% Graham.
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  7. Bluebird71
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    Bluebird71 Well-Known Member

    He wanted to be hung. He's been wanting to die for 20 years.

    If he was hung, then the bodies of some of his victims would not have been found. Personally, I think a life of misery is better punishment.

    What I am not happy with is that Brady has made plans for his funeral. Not a luxury any of his victims had, and one victim's body is still lying there somewhere. He showed no remorse during his lifetime and to think he has wishes that will be met is quite ludicrous.
  8. Bluebird71
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    The death penalty is medieval. These people are so sick that there is no deterrent. Their first crime was committed in 1963, at a time where capital punishment was still in use. So, therefore, we can assume that restoring the death penalty would not have saved the lives of any of their victims. Furthermore, hanging didn't deter the likes of Jack the Ripper, Peter Manuel, John Haigh or Neville Heath.

    We also know that the body of Pauline Reade would not have been recovered, nor the circumstances of her death known had they been hung.

    We cannot comprehend just how mentally "sick" both of these people were. And others like them over the course of history worldwide. People like Albert Fish, Ted Bundy, Donald Henry Gaskins - all lived at times of capital punishment in the US, and all went on killing sprees. I don't believe that the death penalty does anything in terms of being a deterrent. It may make prisons less crowded, it may save the taxpayer some money, but it may also result in innocent people being murdered by the State.
  9. Maley
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    I like the japanese version: death penalty for heinous crimes. Once convicted, the person lives everyday with the fear of not knowing when the execution is (sometimes its more than couple of decades).

    My husband only told me the story of this one. For some people like him, no amount of prison time have made him feel sorry for the crime and thus deserve the same treatment.
  10. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Like many growing up in the northwest in the 70s and 80s periodically this very set of heanous murders and the deprived pair that carried them out made the news.
    Hanging no they should of been left to rot.

    My concern now is that Brady has written a letter held by a legal team to opened after his death explaining where Keith Bennett remains are.
    He Brady will then be painted by the liberal do gooders as some form of repentant at peace with his maker old man who paid his debt.
    It is impossible to repay the debt of taking another souls life more so children.

    If he burns in hell it will be too good for him.
  11. Bluebird71
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    I really can't see anyone coming to that conclusion.

    He has died in the knowledge that one mother died without ever finding her son. That he died passing on his last wishes for a funeral, in the belief that those wishes would be met, means that he died with more peace than his victims and their families. He won't care, he never did.
  12. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    The point I am putting across is that yes I agree with you he has died in the knowledge of his last wishes being carried out but also I firmly believe in death he will reveal all. It is this point that some will see as his last repent
  13. DavidAlma
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    Still fail to see how anybody could interpret that as showing any signs of repent. My guess is that if there any directions given in this letter, they will just be yet another wild goose chase, like the previous directions that he has given.

    @Bluebird71 Maybe capital punishment would not be an effective deterrent for all killers, but I'm pretty sure it would be for some and thats good enough for me.
  14. Timmers
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    I'm just pleased to see that Brady didn't ask for his ashes to be scattered on Saddleworth Moor as was initially reported, as from what I have read nobody could have stopped that from happening, at least as far as the law goes. That would have been a real kick in the teeth for the bereaved families, I'm sure it would have been stopped somehow though.
  15. Bluebird71
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    Going back to my point, Brady wanted to die. Hanging him would have benefitted him, but not the parents of Pauline Reade. Keith's (surname forgotten) brother was on the radio yesterday saying that hanging Brady would have been counter productive.

    The death penalty exists in America, a country that has a history of homicide.
  16. Bluebird71
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    I agree, it would have been stopped or postponed until a law to stop it happening was crafted. Brady should have no right to make such demands.
  17. Timmers
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    Its my belief too that there would have been some swift change in the law and rightfully so, he has caused so much misery for the victims families throughout his life and nobody wants him to still have some kind of hold on the families after his death.
  18. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    they should hold his ashes in prison so he is never released
  19. DavidAlma
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    Just flush them down the toilet.
  20. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    what and pollute the sewers! I take the point though

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