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John McDonnell says....

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion and Ethics' started by walesrob, Sep 26, 2016.

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  1. walesrob
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    walesrob Administrator Staff Member

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37468209

    "Britain needs an interventionist government working with the private sector, shadow chancellor John McDonnell has told the BBC."

    In other words, communism of sorts.

    Mr McDonnell said the UK would borrow in the short term for long-term investment and the "prosperity of the future".

    Mr McDonnell said this would trigger investment from the private sector and, ultimately, higher tax returns.

    Meaning: I will borrow massively, put the country in even more debt, and raise taxes, then leave it up to another party to clear up the mess. Rinse and repeat.
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  2. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    I thought exactly the same, just another typical Labour Government if they were ever to Govern the UK again.
  3. Aromulus
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    Aromulus The Don Staff Member

    Just my opinion..
    But I don't really care if the Tories become a fait accompli for the next couple of generations. They seem to be, rightly or wrongly, able to run the country with some kind of efficient purpose, every time the other shower messes up. I haven't got many years left so I would like some sort of consistency now.
  4. Markham
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    There are some horrible similarities between Hitler's Nazi party and Corbyn's Labour. Both men came from relative obscurity to head-up their parties with landslide victories, both envisage rule by dictatorship, both parties recruited and brainwashed their young, both parties are anti-semitic and Corbyn's Momentum are the modern Hitler Brown Shirts who think nothing of bullying, intimidation and making death threats to those who oppose them.
  5. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Like your good self I'm quite happy for the Tories to trundle along as there is no alternative and will not be for the foreseeable future.
  6. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    The Tories are right for the UK.
  7. Markham
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    The general population of the UK has always tended to be more inclined to be right of centre than left of centre politically. That's one reason Blair opened the immigration flood gates as he believed that those who migrated to the UK would be forever grateful to and therefore vote Labour at election time.

    However there is one major problem and that is the complete absence of a credible opposition party: Corbyn's motley mob of revolutionaries prefer protest to democratic process.
  8. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    I'm just watching McDonnell speaking at the conference now and I think he has made the UK bankrupt in about ten minutes :) Its all spend spend spend with him.
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    "The worry that I have is this suggestion of £500bn. I mean, that’s an awful lot of either borrowing or extra taxation. In order to raise it you’d have to double income tax. You’d have to double National Insurance. You’d have to double council tax. And you’d have to double VAT as well."
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    The irony is, having an "interventionist government" would mean breaching and subverting EU rules..... so they'd be better of out of the EU...... which they campaigned to stay in.
    MMmmmmmmmmm
  11. graham59
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    A bunch of clowns who brought this country to its knees last time they were let loose with taxpayers' money. ... at the same time blighting our beloved country for generations to come by opening the floodgates to every form of human detritus from god knows where.
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    I really cannot imagine why anyone who was alive, adult and compos mentis in the 1970s would ever wish a return to those days. Unless, of course, they were clients of the State and in receipt of large amounts of tax payers' money each week for sitting on their backsides doing nothing productive.

    Doesn't the very thought of British Leyland and its union convener, Derek Robinson - better known as "Red Robbo" - strike fear and loathing into your heart? In one twelve-month period, 1978-79, Red Robbo was responsible for 523 separate disputes costing more than £200 million in lost production. And remember at that time there was a Labour Government, under the Premiership of James Callaghan, and British Leyland was a nationalised industry.

    That is what McDonnell and his pal Corbyn envisage our country's future to be - one of big spending, big taxes, big borrowing and big government. A national "wage" for everyone - ie everyone on benefits - and a move from taxation on earnings to taxation on wealth. Obviously these financial geniuses haven't been paying attention to what happens elsewhere in the world when left-wing governments come to power and attack the wealthy; there's capital flight and there are currently more wealthy French nationals living in London than there are in Paris.

    Then there's McDonnell's proposal to increase the National Minimum Wage to "at least £10" during the first year of a Labour Government. Is he that naive that he doesn't realise that this measure will lead to mass unemployment, a rise in the use of illegal labour and rampant inflation. And with unions being given a free reign, unemployment will shoot skywards. Just like the last time:

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    I loved all of the 70s, but then I was in my teens and twenties for that whole period. Happy times. :)
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