Labour's Tuition Fees Betrayal

How do you measure these things?

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Andrew Neil: Sarah Champion, when Jeremy Corbyn said a week before the election, a week before voting, he told voters that quote ‘he would deal with historic student debt’ what did he mean by that?

Sarah Champion: Well you would have to ask him, I think it’s…

Andrew Neil: Chance would be a fine thing.

Sarah Champion: I’ll ask if he will come on. I don’t think it is going to be possible to be quite honest, how do you square it with people that have already paid off their debt for example, what I do think though is we can’t change the past and I don’t think the Treasury would ever allow us to roll back on something.

Andrew Neil: Because it looks like it would be £100bn is the amount.

Sarah Champion: Yeah…​

This is becoming a Big Problem for Jezza ...

More like a big problem for you since this is the 3rd time on this thread I have posted quotes from the links you provided have you become dyslexic?

"Jeremy Corbyn will pledge to fast-track legislation to scrap university fees in England from 2018.

And Labour will promise to write off the first year of fees for students starting university this September.

Those part way through their degree will not have to pay fees for the remainder of their course.

Mr Corbyn will also vow to restore maintenance grants and scrap college fees for adult learners."

Daily Mirror

"Corbyn has said that he will work to reduce existing student debt if they win the upcoming general election.

“First of all, we want to get rid of student fees altogether,” Corbyn told NME. “We’ll do it as soon as we get in, and we’ll then introduce legislation to ensure that any student going from the 2017-18 academic year will not pay fees. They will pay them, but we’ll rebate them when we’ve got the legislation through – that’s fundamentally the principle behind it. Yes, there is a block of those that currently have a massive debt, and I’m looking at ways that we could reduce that, ameliorate that, lengthen the period of paying it off, or some other means of reducing that debt burden.”

NME


Read more at http://www.nme.com/news/jeremy-corb...ened-student-debt-2082478#JsVSzK46YMqELK4i.99

So why is it that Shadow Cabinet members are lining-up to distance themselves from their leader's promises - could it be that they realise that those promises could never be kept?

Which promises are you refering to ? surely not these again which bit dont you understand 4th time

"Jeremy Corbyn will pledge to fast-track legislation to scrap university fees in England from 2018.

And Labour will promise to write off the first year of fees for students starting university this September.

Those part way through their degree will not have to pay fees for the remainder of their course.

Mr Corbyn will also vow to restore maintenance grants and scrap college fees for adult learners."

Daily Mirror

"Corbyn has said that he will work to reduce existing student debt if they win the upcoming general election.

“First of all, we want to get rid of student fees altogether,” Corbyn told NME. “We’ll do it as soon as we get in, and we’ll then introduce legislation to ensure that any student going from the 2017-18 academic year will not pay fees. They will pay them, but we’ll rebate them when we’ve got the legislation through – that’s fundamentally the principle behind it. Yes, there is a block of those that currently have a massive debt, and I’m looking at ways that we could reduce that, ameliorate that, lengthen the period of paying it off, or some other means of reducing that debt burden.”

NME


Read more at http://www.nme.com/news/jeremy-corb...ened-student-debt-2082478#JsVSzK46YMqELK4i.99

You avoid addressing the issue. Why are Corbyn's Front Bench team lining-up to distance themselves from the promises to current and former students Corbyn made just prior to Polling Day. The promises are indicated in that NME article that you continually quote but you omit including the relevant passage.

In that case, why have free education at all?

If you read your own links for the 5th time in this thread the exact quote was as below

but I am prepared to believe that your belief that repeating the same lie somehow makes it

true is without limit a brexiteer releaverinfection thats hard to treat

Now, speaking to NME for this week’s cover interview, Corbyn has said that he will work to reduce existing student debt if they win the upcoming general election.

“First of all, we want to get rid of student fees altogether,” Corbyn told NME. “We’ll do it as soon as we get in, and we’ll then introduce legislation to ensure that any student going from the 2017-18 academic year will not pay fees. They will pay them, but we’ll rebate them when we’ve got the legislation through – that’s fundamentally the principle behind it. Yes, there is a block of those that currently have a massive debt, and I’m looking at ways that we could reduce that, ameliorate that, lengthen the period of paying it off, or some other means of reducing that debt burden.”


Read more at http://www.nme.com/news/jeremy-corb...ened-student-debt-2082478#BjJubcJDuqAXLkmF.99

I have just watched the Tuition Fees debate on BBC Parliament and the sight of Angela Rayner's deep discomfort when Jo Johnson, the Science and Universities Minister, "replayed" Corbyn's NME interview was priceless. Rayner was put in the position of having to admit that her leader's announced Student fees and loans promises were totally uncosted and were now simply one of the party's ambitions.

You can check Hansard for yourself.

The NME Interview you posted is here x 5 why do I need Hansard?

Here it is again with your link Im happy to keep posting it evry time you lie about it

Now, speaking to NME for this week’s cover interview, Corbyn has said that he will work to reduce existing student debt if they win the upcoming general election.

“First of all, we want to get rid of student fees altogether,” Corbyn told NME. “We’ll do it as soon as we get in, and we’ll then introduce legislation to ensure that any student going from the 2017-18 academic year will not pay fees. They will pay them, but we’ll rebate them when we’ve got the legislation through – that’s fundamentally the principle behind it. Yes, there is a block of those that currently have a massive debt, and I’m looking at ways that we could reduce that, ameliorate that, lengthen the period of paying it off, or some other means of reducing that debt burden.”

http://www.nme.com/news/jeremy-corb...ened-student-debt-2082478#BjJubcJDuqAXLkmF.99

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What an excellent attempt by the torys to regain control of any narrative still a lie though posted by a liar

x7 from Marks link below

Now, speaking to NME for this week’s cover interview, Corbyn has said that he will work to reduce existing student debt if they win the upcoming general election.

“First of all, we want to get rid of student fees altogether,” Corbyn told NME. “We’ll do it as soon as we get in, and we’ll then introduce legislation to ensure that any student going from the 2017-18 academic year will not pay fees. They will pay them, but we’ll rebate them when we’ve got the legislation through – that’s fundamentally the principle behind it. Yes, there is a block of those that currently have a massive debt, and I’m looking at ways that we could reduce that, ameliorate that, lengthen the period of paying it off, or some other means of reducing that debt burden.”

http://www.nme.com/news/jeremy-corb...ened-student-debt-2082478#BjJubcJDuqAXLkmF.99

Corbyn's NME interview contains the following passage "I don’t see why those that had the historical misfortune to be at university during the £9,000 period should be burdened excessively compared to those that went before or those that come after. I will deal with it" thereby stating that he will cancel all student loans. Neither Corbyn nor anyone else on his Frontbench team are denying he said those words, so why are you? Taken together with his pledge to abolish Tuition Fees, current and former university students will have voted in their hundreds for Labour candidates, some even claimed to have voted twice.

With McDonnell, Ashworth, Rayner and Chapman all admitting that Jeremy's promises for students were in fact ambitions not pledges, you've done the classic bait-and-switch and I can assure you that the Conservatives and other parties will not let students forget your sell-out. Students didn't forget the Lib Dems' treachery when they made a similar pledge before the 2010 election. And promptly broken it afterwards.

Making personal attacks on me doesn't help your cause one bit.

x8 from Marks link below

Now, speaking to NME for this week’s cover interview, Corbyn has said that he will work to reduce existing student debt if they win the upcoming general election.

“First of all, we want to get rid of student fees altogether,” Corbyn told NME. “We’ll do it as soon as we get in, and we’ll then introduce legislation to ensure that any student going from the 2017-18 academic year will not pay fees. They will pay them, but we’ll rebate them when we’ve got the legislation through – that’s fundamentally the principle behind it. Yes, there is a block of those that currently have a massive debt, and I’m looking at ways that we could reduce that, ameliorate that, lengthen the period of paying it off, or some other means of reducing that debt burden.”

http://www.nme.com/news/jeremy-corb...ened-student-debt-2082478#BjJubcJDuqAXLkmF.99

So Corbyn and his MPs and shadow ministers made no pledges to students immediately before the general election, are you sure?

Here's a tweet by Sharon Hodgson, Shadow Minister for Public Health, she posted on 2nd June:

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and then there's Shadow Justice Minister Imran Hussain speaking in a campaign video during the election:

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"Just this morning Jeremy Corbyn has announced that the tuition fees will be abolished straight away from September if there’s a Labour government, and that we will bring back immediately EMA and also that every existing student will have all their debt wiped off. That’s fantastic news, isn’t it guys?"

You can re-quote part of Corbyn's NME interview to your heart's content but it doesn't alter the fact that he and his front bench team attracted scores of students to vote Labour by making promises about student finances.

Made a wish then

x9 from Marks link below

Now, speaking to NME for this week’s cover interview, Corbyn has said that he will work to reduce existing student debt if they win the upcoming general election.

“First of all, we want to get rid of student fees altogether,” Corbyn told NME. “We’ll do it as soon as we get in, and we’ll then introduce legislation to ensure that any student going from the 2017-18 academic year will not pay fees. They will pay them, but we’ll rebate them when we’ve got the legislation through – that’s fundamentally the principle behind it. Yes, there is a block of those that currently have a massive debt, and I’m looking at ways that we could reduce that, ameliorate that, lengthen the period of paying it off, or some other means of reducing that debt burden.”

http://www.nme.com/news/jeremy-corb...ened-student-debt-2082478#BjJubcJDuqAXLkmF.99

I am totally underwhelmed by your response and the fact that you parrot the same reply nine times means you have absolutely no effective argument to counter the facts.

I know from talking to my daughter that many current and former students are livid at the betrayal and they won't be repeating the mistake of voting Labour next time. And that sir, is FACT.

The only fact in that sentence may be that you talked to your daughter

glad to see your aversion to Political threads was as hipocritical as your views

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