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Labour's Woes Deepen

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion and Ethics' started by Markham, Aug 5, 2016.

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  1. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    I was watching JC being interviewed this morning and he appears to be all over the place with his stance on Brexit, immigration and the rest of it.

    I always feel sorry for his fellow MPs that struggle to back up what he has said following on from JCs interviews, basically the shadow cabinet do not appear to follow the same script, its almost like they do not communicate with each other on what stance they intend to take on certain political issues.
  2. Markham
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    Another half-day, another U-turn! Having told the nation he favoured a maximum wage cap at breakfast-time, by lunch he'd changed his mind and dropped that demand. He now wants those earning £70,000 or more to pay more tax!

    Keep-up Labour MPs! If you can!! :lol:
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    I feel for the chap, he is reasonably honest and sincere for a politician at least but he just doesn't have a clue, he is good at one thing though, dividing his party and supporters.

    I bet the Tories have a right good chuckle about him, I've never voted for any other party than the Labour party but for the life of me I could never vote for someone who is so left wing.

    Its very difficult to see where the Labour party goes from here, a starting point of course would be to get rid of JC but that's easier said than done as we have seen over the last year or so.
  4. graham59
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    I listened to Corbyn on the 'Today' programme this morning.

    He came across as an idiot, who appears to believe that saving foreign workers from being 'exploited' here is more important than the interests of the British people. :rolleyes:
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  5. Timmers
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    You're right, in my opinion he has his priorities all wrong, he prioritises policies that to me and you are completely irrelevant to the bigger picture an example of which you quoted.
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  6. Markham
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    Absolutely! He doesn't listen to his blue collar members therefore he doesn't understand them or their needs. He's not the first leader of the Labour Party with that particular fault, it's been a common theme in the party since Kinnock's election as party leader.

    Corbyn knows more about workers in Cuba and Venezuela than those in Britain.
  7. Bluebird71
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    Wow! You do like making your conjecture sound factual.

    How are the NHS coping today?
  8. Markham
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    It's not a conjecture and as for your grammatically-incorrect question, what does it have to do with Labour's woes?
  9. Bluebird71
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    Of course it's conjecture. Either that, or a complete falsehood posted to score some political point or another.

    As for the question, it was purely rhetorical because I have quickly learned that you don't tend to answer questions (whether they are grammatically correct or not).
  10. Markham
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    What is your basis for stating that?

    Either you need to buy some new spectacles or go back to school for lessons in English comprehension!
  11. Bluebird71
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    Point 1. You claim that Corbyn (whom, by the way, I don't support) knows more about Venezuelan and Cuban workers than UK workers. That is pure conjecture/opinion/falsehood, unless you can show me that this is actually a fact.

    Point 2. I have asked you a few questions in other threads that have been skipped past. As long as we follow your agenda, it's all ok though.

    I could go back to school, but once you've experienced this playground (british-filipino.com) everything else is a poor imitation.
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  12. Markham
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    That is a point that was put to his spin doctor, Seaumus Milne, just over a year ago and was not denied. Corbyn is an internationalist who cares more about foreigners and their rights than his own people.

    Tres drole. Are you always this patronising and scornful of others?
  13. Bluebird71
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    Ah, so not a question answered by the man who knows then.

    As for me being patronising, check back on some of your replies to me in this thread! As they say "Sir, he started it". Where's my protractor?
  14. Markham
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    According to City AM editor, Christian May: "Asked why he was leaving Corbyn’s Labour party to become a museum director, Tristram Hunt says he wants something more forward looking."

    Hunt's constituency is Stoke Central which voted 70% in favour of leaving the EU and his majority could be very easily be overturned by Ukip who were second-placed in 2015. That could be assured if Corbyn does any campaigning there.

    Last week Corbyn berated the press for failing to report on Labour's local council by-election gains. As the words left his mouth, his party promptly lost a ward to the Lib Dems in Scunthorpe!
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    Time............
  16. Bluebird71
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    I'd be shocked if Labour held Stoke Central or Copeland.

    Is Farage going to stand in any of these? If he ever does become an MP, let's hope he turns up a little bit more often than he does in his current job.

    http://www.votewatch.eu/en/term8-nigel-farage-2.html

    His expenses claims would make interesting reading:-

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ver-1million-each-in-salary-and-expenses-pay/

    Although he's strongly opposed to the EU, he does seem to do a little bit better than most.
  17. Markham
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    Farage has apparently said that he will not be competing for either seat.
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    Agreed, though stranger things have happened.​
    I don't think that Nigel wants to stand as a UK politician, he resigned from UKIP saying that he wanted to get his life back, understandable after the physical and mental stress that he and his family have endured at the hands of political thugs.​

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    Nigel needs to keep his mind honed for the most important issues.

    £15,000 in expenses for bodyguards seems like remarkably good value, especially compared to the main story in your link, which is about two other MEP's who claimed £150,000 in travel expenses.​
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  19. Bluebird71
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    Someone find me a job where 60% absence is acceptable for 8000 Euros a month.

    I was going to suggest that Farage was underpaying for his two bodyguards - possibly paying below minimum wage. But, considering he only appears to work a couple of hours a week, maybe they are being paid too much.
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    Corbyn flip-flopped yet again when interviewed by Andrew Marr yesterday by saying that footballers should be exempted from any maximum wage capping.

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