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Man born and raised in UK told he is not a British citizen

Discussion in 'News from the UK, Europe and the rest of the World' started by KeithAngel, Aug 29, 2017.

  1. ChoiAndJohn
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    ChoiAndJohn Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Have to admit that's a fair point. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander and all that. However being right never defused an argument either. I'm reminded of this limerick:

    This is the grave of Mike O day
    Who died maintaining his right of way.
    His right was clear
    His will was strong
    But he's just as dead as if he'd been wrong.
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  2. Anon04576
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    Well im glad you agree. Personally if someone criticices where I lived, would I honestly care... no.

    Who cares where I live, not me, it's a means to an end, close to work, it suits me.

    Would. I care if someone insults my wife, my family then yes of course, just like you too. He's not insulted your wife, your family, lets just crack on eh.
  3. Bowler
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    Bowler Banned

    Halo. I do care. I like where I live. I am actually chuffed to bits with the region. Honest. BTW I work from home.
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  4. Bowler
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    Bowler Banned

    You are absolutely right John. But sometimes as you said in your earlier post, you do have to make a stand.
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  5. Maharg
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    Maharg Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    It was in yesterday's Metro that the letter was a 'mistake' and this guy can stay in the UK..
  6. Bowler
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    Bowler Banned

    Yes. It looks like they overlooked the status of his grandmother.
  7. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    The HO makes a fair few mistakes particularly since around 2011 I see it as a change in culture and is one of the reasons they are having such a hard time over EU Citizens rights in the Brexit talks
  8. Markham
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    You have asserted that Malta is overrun by North Africans and you're claiming that I have stated that "the UK is overrun by foreigners". Your words, not mine. I have never, ever said any such thing or anything close to that. Why would I? I am a foreigner by any definition being half-Polish and half-Australian by birth. All I want to see is Immigration controlled, not stopped. I want it to be just as easy - or difficult - for an Australian or Filipino nurse to come to Britain and work in the NHS as a nurse from Latvia or Portugal. But that does not mean open borders! And why should a nurse from Australia be treated any differently in law?

    Britain's exiting the EU puts a stop to all that. But there are other, more important benefits to be had from leaving the EU which have absolutely nothing to do with immigration but everything to do with trade and prosperity.

    Now for your assertions on Malta. I agree that it is a highly-populated country though its also true to say that a sizeable percentage of the population are retirees from Britain and Ireland who either live here permanently or for 9+ months of the year. And for good reason: the weather, good food, good wines and beers, low taxation, excellent internet and, of course, a very British feel about the place. Just ask WalesRob: he used to live here. And yes, there are a few North Africans - so what? You obviously find that to be concerning because you mention it several times. It may be concerning to you, I could care less! If you recall, you commented favourably about a country we might have moved to: Poland. Its attitude towards migrants is just how you're attempting to portray mine as. I am really glad we decided against moving there: I have never been a fan of hard-right, fascist politics.

    Here are a couple of snaps I took yesterday afternoon of our local bus station which my son and I have to pass on our way to the local playground.

    Optimized-Bus 1.jpg

    That picture was taken at about 5.30pm, the busiest part of the evening "rush hour" and this particular bus station is the hub for some 9 or 10 routes that radiate outwards. Busy isn't it? Hundreds of people waiting for buses? But how many North Africans can you see? If, as you claim, Malta, right? is overrun by them, they should feature in photos of public places such as this, right?

    The answer is: there are no North Africans - or Syrians - in that photo above.

    Optimized-Bus 2.jpg

    Here's the same place just over around 90 minutes later, just as the shops were shutting. And if you look closely, you will see two "gentlemen of colour". One is certainly from Africa, he's third from right with the red T shirt. I know him: he treated our son at the local health clinic - he's a doctor over here to increment his knowledge. The guy seated to his right is not African or from the Middle East; he's a West Indian, probably Jamaican from his accent.

    Paul (HaloHalo) wondered why you deliberately sought to paint Malta in such a poor light. As we know from before, you seem to derive pleasure from stirring-up discontent and making people feel bad about themselves and their choices. That was your modus operandi in another place and you carried-on in the same vein here. Until you were banned.

    With apologies to Paul and everyone else here - except you - let me return the compliment by pointing out an uncomfortable truth. Yesterday the EU's counter-terrorism coordinator, Gilles de Kerchove, singled out the UK as having more radicalised Muslims than any other country in Europe. He put that number at 35,000 which is more than two times more than are in France (17,000) and seven times more than in Spain (5,000). Many of these will be British citizens by birth. So how are you going to deal with what apparently is a growing problem? You might wish to consider that in the context of a Corbyn government with uncontrolled borders and support for terrorist organisations.

    We don't have that problem here in Malta.
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  9. Bowler
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    Bowler Banned

    In order to get a square peg into a round hole, if it does not work the first time then use a bigger mallet!

    In recognition of a desire to radically reduce the number of extreme right leaning political postings I am going to abstain from responding, to starve the flames of oxygen.

    I suggest you do your bit.
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  10. bigmac
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    That was your modus operandi in another place and you carried-on in the same vein here. Until you were banned.

    ok--lets ask him again

    " @Bowler can you confirm or deny you were previously on another UK /Philippino advice site---and were you ( like me )--banned from it ?"
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  11. Bowler
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    Hi BigMac,

    Er No. I do not use social media much at all. My wife does - she uses Facebook and chats with Filipino lady friends on there. I have joined the occasional forum to get advice, for example my Ford Kuga had a problem where I could not remove the key from the ignition so I checked it out on a forum to see if others had the same problem.

    What were you banned for? Disagreeing with extremist views?
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  12. Anon04576
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    Others are incapable of applying the same sensible logic and refuse to back down by resorting to belittling/undermining/insulting others in order to accomplish their task, they know who they are. So, your abstinence is much appreciated "Bowler".
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  13. Bowler
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    Bowler Banned

    Thanks Halo
  14. Markham
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    Are we to assume that it is your policy, as this site's owner, to permit, encourage even, members to post hard-left vitriol and belittle/undermine/insult those whose views are different whilst discouraging those from the right from posting?

    I'd appreciate an early response so that I may consider appropriate action.
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    Markham Guest

    Are you saying that my post, numbered 48 above, is "extreme right leaning political" ? You should take a leaf out of WalesRob's book: he is to some degree a left-leaner but he is realistic and takes a pragmatic view; he is certainly not intolerant of others who views differ to his own, nor does he seek to belittle or insult them. Can you say the same?
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  16. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    I wonder what our Filipino visitors make of all this bickering.
    Small wonder the Forum isn't as diverse as it should be.
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  17. Markham
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    Markham Guest

    The anti-Duterte sentiment that's stirred-up from time to time doesn't help.
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  18. Anon04576
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    It's nothing to do with left or right, everyone is welcome to open and free debate. What is important is trying to ensure we are responsible in our responses, personal attacks, belittling/undermining etc, directly or indirectly aren't required.

    Me as site owner is your assumption.
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  19. bigmac
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    What were you banned for? Disagreeing with extremist views?

    no. there had been a long running saga by another member of the site i referred to, mostly a detailed a/c of the break up of his marriage. finally the site owner interceded--and called the member a liar and a wife-beater. the member was not online at the time. i stuck my nose in and asked the owner for an explanation in the other members absence. so he banned us both !

    as i had been on that site several years--and got a lot of help and advice--i felt very annoyed--and lost. luckily i found this site-----and quickly discovered several other members here had also been booted off the other...mainly through disagreeing with the owner.

    please note--several other members here are also members of the other site--in fact--one is an admin.
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  20. ChoiAndJohn
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    I haven't seen much evidence of that. Really I have to laugh a bit at some of this talk. It's getting a bit sily isn't it?
    I have to wonder what appropriate action you're thinking of @Markham. I'm guessing it's not the same action as @graham59 who left in a huff and then unexpectedly returned?

    <edit. I have edited the above two words in italics in an attempt not to encourage discord in the forum. However, in my own defence I will say that the rock he crawled out from under was a golden rock, at least in my mind. :) >
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