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Non immigration tourist visa 59 day stay

Discussion in 'UK Visa and Immigration Help' started by PaulM, May 30, 2020.

  1. PaulM
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    PaulM New Member

    Hi there,

    The embassy is closed In London hence why I’m posting on here. we may not end up going going in November anyway if this COVID 19 has an effect till new year but here goes:

    On the application form it states if you have a criminal record, convictions etc. Basically if you tick yes to have to apply for a criminal record dated within 6 months.

    My question is this:

    If you tick no do you still have to have a police check done and pay for it? They bother checking?

    Basically I don’t want to have to pay for this As it costs around £55 plus I’m on the update service anyway as I work in the health sector anyway. And no I don’t have convictions thank you.

    It sounds easier to get it while in Philippines instead.
  2. Br28016
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    Br28016 Active Member Trusted Member

    Are you married and going with Filipina wife ?

    In that scenario take copy of marriage certificate and should be able to get bakibayan visa which is good for a year and also free. Just need to go through immigration together and make sure immigration officer knows that married.

    Or if going to Manila sure I've read that can do visa extension to two months on arrival which is probably easiest solution. Worth checking on process as seem to remember you have to do certain things on arrival to be able to do extension on arrival.
  3. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    Balikbayan stamp it is not a visa but a privilege, best to have the marriage certificate on you when you present at the immigration counter, you will only get this easily if you have everything you need with you on entry.

    The on arrival extension was easy when you arrived in NAIA 1 but no one has reported here on the process if you arrive at NAIA 3, it would be good if someone who has done this could report on where the BI office in NAIA 3 is, I've done this in NAIA 1 but there it is before the immigration desks not after, the cost many years ago was less than 3000 peso but I don't know the cost now.

    You can also extend at the BI office in Intramuros after arrival but that is a little more onerous, when I tried to do that in 2010 (Iceland Volcano) they told me I already had a Balikbayan stamp and didn't need it, I actually had the stamp in error as when I returned with Ana we were not married, that office is quite busy a lot of the time.
  4. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    Tick no, as that is the truth.
  5. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    it's a viss
    Balikbayan visa is a type of visa given to the people who are arriving in the Philippines that qualify under the definition of Balikbayan e.g OFWs, former Filipino citizens and their immediate family. The Balikbayan visa will grant a one-year visa-free balikbayan stay and a tax-exempt “Kabuhayan shopping privileges.
  6. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Fairly easy to do at the airport just make sure you know the office will be open!
    Costs up to 5000 pesos cash not sure if they have a card reader take passport marriage certificate ( you may not need it to extend to 59 days) fill out the form, present will take about 30 minutes
  7. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    It is not a visa it is a privilege it is defined as visa-free stay. edit: a better definition http://immigration.gov.ph/faqs/visa-inquiry/balikbayan-privilege

    for want of a better source the Singapore site has a good definition.

    https://www.philippine-embassy.org.sg/the-philippines-2/travel-to-the-philippines/

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  8. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    If paying in cash for the extension it is required to be local currency, in NAIA 1 they had a card reader back in 2010 as that is how I paid.
  9. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    On a final note I guess it's down to who is saying what
    https://www.thephilippines.com/2019/07/what-is-balikbayan-visa-and-who-does-it.html?m=1
  10. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    A visa-free period is a period of time where a visa is not required, the stamp in your passport when when you arrive is not a visa it is an entry stamp detailing the beginning of your visa free period which now lasts 30 days in the case of the Philippines for a UK traveller.

    This is my BB stamp, the only difference from a normal entry stamp is that there is no date specified for exit from the country. (I was given this in error but even the BI didn't object when I went to see them about it)

    You will almost certainly have had these as well.

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    This link is to the BI http://immigration.gov.ph/faqs/visa-inquiry/balikbayan-privilege
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  11. Jim
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    Jim Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    I came here on BB stamp over 3 years ago. Converted it to a permanent 13A visa renewable ever 5 years. Lots of headache getting it done but worth it.
  12. Br28016
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    Br28016 Active Member Trusted Member

    https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/1989/11/23/republic-act-no-6768/

    SEC. 3. Benefits and Privileges of the Balikbayan.—The balikbayan and his or her family shall be entitled to the following benefits and privileges:

    (b) the national flag air carrier shall establish a special promotional/incentive program for the balikbayan;

    (c) For foreign passport holders with the exception of restricted nationals, visa-free entry to the Philippines for a period of one (1) year;

    (d) Travel tax exemption as provided under Presidential Decree No. 1183, Executive Order No. 283, and other allied laws; and

    (e) Especially designated reception areas at the authorized ports of entry for the expeditious processing of documents.

    According to (c) it is visa free entry so privilege not a visa - I stand corrected on my original post although still the preferred route.

    Don't remember Seeing anything on (b) or (e) which would be interesting to know more about.
  13. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    They stamp your passport with a BB stamp at point of entry is that right?
    It is valid for one year is that right?
  14. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    The privilege grants you entry without a visa for a period of one year correct, the stamp is the same stamp as the normal entry stamp, they write BB instead of writing the date you need to leave, look at all of my other entry stamps, they all have a hand written exit date or a stamped exit date.

    It's hard to see here but that is I think supposed to say BB there is no exit date but I would have been expected to leave by Apr 6th 2011 as that is implied by the BB privilege.

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  15. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    Definitely the preferred route if it is available to you.

    On my question does anyone know where the BI office is airside at NAIA 3 ?
  16. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    This is my point it grants you ( as in point c in @Br28016 post above )visa free access for a year that is why there is no leave date.
    If you leave and enter the Philippines numerous times in that year you can do so visa free..
    However if say you entered 1.01.2019 left and went back numerous times but your last entry was20.12..2019 I reckon you would get a leave stamp date dated 31.12.2020.
    The privilege happens while your there to go in and out visa free!
    Look up the word Visa!
  17. oss
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    No the balikbayan stamp expires on exit immediately, so if you enter on 01/01/2020 and leave on 15/05/2020 when you come back you get 30 day visa-free entry stamp to the country if you are travelling alone as you no longer have Balikbayan privilege, if on the other hand your wife left with you and you both came back on 01/06/2020 then you would get a new Balikbayan privilege valid for 12 months from 01/06/2020.

    I entered the Phils with Ana on April 6th 2010 then the volcano went up in Iceland and I got stranded, I left early May, I came back in June 2010 to do some wedding Photography for my friend when I came back I got the normal 21 day visa-free entry stamp, you can see it in my earlier photo entry stamp 10 June 2010 written on the stamp 07/01/2010 or 1st of July 2010 the date I had to leave by.

    John look up the phrase visa-free, the definition is "without a visa" not a free visa. :)

    I have only ever visited the Philippines with a visa about 4 or 5 times when I explicitly got first a single entry visa for more than 21 days and second where I got a multi-entry visa and used it 4 times in a year, out of about 30 visits 25 of them were without a visa, you don't get a visa on arrival you get a period of time that is free to you "without a visa".

    This is a visa, indeed this is that one that lets you enter the country for up to 59 days multiple times a year :

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  18. oss
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    I should also have added this following point earlier, the Balikbayan privilege is not granted to you it is granted to your wife it is her right as a Balikbayan to have her foreign husband or children granted extended entry to the Philippines on her return to the Philippines which is why you can't leave and come back on your own.
  19. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    I am fully aware of that!
  20. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Not sure why its being stated that a Balikbayan visa (that gives entry to the Balikbayan programme) is the preferred route given the content of the OP!

    Are they married? Is there another person involved? If so is she OFW or out of the Philippines continuously for one year or a now citizen of another country from the approved list.

    Or is Paulm simply a tourist thst wants to extend his stay.

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