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Discussion in 'Life in the UK' started by Anon220806, Dec 10, 2020.

  1. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    It's better than the alternative, so yes up to a point, as I have mentioned elsewhere in my industry our people are scrambling over this final week to make sure that document requirements are met for the first, the bureaucratic red tape that has just come into being is horrendous and we currently don't understand what some of our customers are asking for in regards to trading through Northern Ireland.

    Right now a lot of people are running about like headless chickens trying to figure out what paperwork is needed at the end of this week.
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  2. Aromulus
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    fair enough, I also think that it is something that was at the back of a lot of people's mind for a long time. Bliar and Brown did promise referendums that never materialised, so really voters jumped at it when call me dave made the offer as a manifesto piece...

    I know for a fact that the Italexit movement is gathering momentum and the EU liberal
    intelligentia in sprout town is feeling the vibes
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  3. Druk1
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    Druk1 Well-Known Member

    I will breath a sigh of relief in 4 days time when I stand on Westminster Bridge and Big Ben chimes, then I will know my vote was a worthwhile contribution to the majority.
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  4. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    That was on the EU Constitution and by the time it came to it France and the Netherlands had already rejected it so the point was moot.
  5. Aromulus
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    it was re-introduced and called treaty of lisbon and passed by the respective parliaments ignoring the will of the people.
    After the Dutch and French results, no other european nation had the guts to put it to the vote.
    democracy at its best?
    The EEC worked fine, why mess it up??
  6. Anon220806
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    Lots of form filling?
    My employer’s business crosses borders so he must be facing the same paper work requirement.

    Surely though once it is done once it is done? Am guessing a lot of it could be dealt with via software :D
  7. oss
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    Yeah have fun writing that software at zero notice, then dealing with the bugs and complaints from your customers who didn't know what they needed and really had not thought about what they might need because there was no government guidance about what they should or would have to do on Jan 1st.

    Your employer is likely one company, if they export to the EU they will have to deal with Jan 1st, from memory John your employer is a service provider not a manufacturer so their cross EU border issues could be worse than ours, we are one company who has to solve the problem for more than 100 other companies.

    If we solve our issues and if we get it right, then we will have saved our customers a lot of time, effort and potentially money and the immediate problem will be fixed, yes, that is the nature of software, however the new regulatory environment will be far more fluid than before, you can expect constant change. We probably won't pass the cost to our customers but we damn well should.

    edit: software is the lubricant that is supposed to remove friction, it does not prevent the friction from being there in the first place, to use an analogy prior to Jan 1st we had a superconductor, now we only have a conductor.
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  8. Anon220806
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    Yes, a service provider supplying personnel that are seconded to work for another client company for an agreed hourly or even daily rate (almost like a rental) is how half the employment in the oil industry has been provided over the last huge number of decades. It is known as the service sector and the employing company is known as a service provider or a service company. There are a huge number of services and service providers in the oil and gas industry. My old (previous) employer is a prime example of that - a huge service provider.
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  11. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    A parting observation.

    This is what you are all celebrating, yeah this is only a little bit of it, but look at all that governance that you are (not) free of in this brave new world, never mind the freedoms we lost.

    What, 30 hours now :lol:

    Feckin marvellous, whoop de doo, what fun.

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  12. Druk1
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    Yup, tomorrow :)
  13. oss
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    Yeah you just love it :D

    28 hours till we shoot our feet off :lol:
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  14. Druk1
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    I am actually in a good mood today, just been for a little run, life is good, always better than the alternative :) I did once nearly shoot one of my feet off when I was about 14 years old :confused:
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  15. oss
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    I got shot by my pal when I was 14, air rifle but I still got shot :D
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  16. oss
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    Ana on the other hand actually got shot through the neck by a small calibre gun when she was about 9 years old by her good friend, not sure if it was a rifle or a gun but I can attest to the entry and exit scars on her neck :D
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  17. Druk1
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    My brother and I used to play cowboys and Indians stalking each other through the woods with our airguns, I got shot daily :lol: I got a double barrel old 410 shotgun when I was 14,put a shot through my bedroom floor missing my foot by inches :ninja:
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    Your are lucky that you didn't lose an eye ;)

    I took a different approach to damaging property, I built a lot of rockets back when I was that age from available materials and the chemicals my dad could supply, one of my rocket motor tests blew out our windows and put a shrapnel hole through our next door neighbours window, it exploded as my solid rocket fuel was badly formulated, I had potassium chlorate and lactose mixed with potassium permanganate, I saw the permanganate as a moderator to slow the reaction at least that was the idea in a 14 year old head, however it melted and effectively blocked the exhaust resulting in a violent explosion which narrowly missed my head and my friend's head.

    Kids are bloody dangerous if you give them the tools :lol:
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  19. Druk1
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    I had loads of odd mishaps which almost landed me in borstal, luckily I was Fleet of foot as a kid :ninja: kids eh? Who would have them :oops:
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