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State of Emergency in Charlottsville

Discussion in 'News from the UK, Europe and the rest of the World' started by KeithAngel, Aug 13, 2017.

  1. Bluebird71
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    Bluebird71 Well-Known Member

    Not really. The victor writes the history.
  2. Bowler
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    Bowler Banned

    But pulling down statues is not changing history.

    Define the word history.
  3. Bootsonground
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    You mean the non politically correct definition of "history"?

    History is the study of the past as it is described in written documents.
    Events that occurred before.
    history noun (PAST EVENTS)
    (the study of) past events considered together, esp. events or developments of a particular period, country, or subject:
    http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/history

    History must not be deleted.
    Attempts to omit or redefine history by crying,violent,offended leftist snowflakes notwithstanding.
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  4. Bowler
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  5. Bowler
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    The key part to the definition of history is that it is a documentation. Rewriting is exactly that i.e. rewriting. So tearing down a monument is not rewriting history. Fact.

    Check your above definition out.

    "History is written by the victors". So said Churchill. The operative word is written. Once you have grasped that point you will understand. Of course you may want to rewrite the definition of history which you are entitled to do but that will remain your definition and yours only.

    So to repeat. Pulling down a monument DOES NOT rewrite history.

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  6. Bowler
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    Max. That is tough concept for some.
  7. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    The removal of the Confederate Flag from Public Buildings was the work of Gov Nikki Haley a republican hardly a "hard leftie" lol:)
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  10. Markham
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    Does this mean that those who object to certain aspects of our past have free licence to remove or destroy monuments to those events? We we see war memorials torn-down, for example?
  11. Bootsonground
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    God forbid...But these days it seems,anything is possible.
    Just feel sorry for my kids,thats all.
    Teach them all I can while they still listen...It`s all I can do.
  12. Bowler
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    Often our kid's horizons are broadened in a way their parents or their parents parents never were. Many these days go on to university, mix in with a wide range of youngsters from a variety of countries, backgrounds, disciplines and creeds and come home one day and say, "come on dad, don't talk rowlocks" and so often they can be correct. And we have to take that on the chin.

    And don't rule out the possibility of them marrying a young, handsome and wealthy ....... left leaning individual with a social conscience. :D
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  13. Bootsonground
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    If they do that,then it`s fine...
    Until BBQ day,a few beers and a polite chat!!
    My kids know what to expect from me..
    I might not be perfect,(just almost)
    but they know I`m one honest MF!
    Bring it on..See how it goes!
  14. Bowler
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    Meanwhile in a household in East London a bigoted father and his daughter and future son in law exchange views:



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  15. Bowler
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    But your kids can actually complete your education. You may have no choice in that matter, no matter how you try to fend it off.
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  16. Bootsonground
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    I`ll fend nothing off..Bring it on!
    I`m well up for it...and they know it.
    Just love them, be honest and take what comes..
    If anything bad comes from that....Tough!
    It is,as they say ..
    "what it is" and everything else before that...is history.
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  17. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    What an amazing leap that is

    My personal view is that some monuments might in different times and for various reasons need relocating from public space as public awareness changes and Im happy that this debate can now happen no "tearing down" or "destruction" just considered removal to less in your face locations where they can be chosen to be viewed from all perspectives.
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  18. Bowler
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    Bowler Banned

    Exactly. Whatever happened to careful discretion.
  19. Bowler
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    Sir Alf on Europe:

  20. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    you mean hide what some may feel is not to there liking?
    So lets take down every cross off religious buildings, lets not fly the Union flag lets not support war veterans like the Chelsea Pensioners, lets not honour our glorious dead from the world wars in case some are offended, claptrap nonsense.
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