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Discussion in 'Relationship Advice' started by frank, Oct 29, 2014.

  1. ChoiAndJohn
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    ChoiAndJohn Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    CENOMAR will show you the person has never been married. It is a certificate that can be obtained in the phils. Make sure the date is dated after you asked - you don't want to be shown a ten year old CENOMAR since obviously she could have married since it was issued. A recent CENOMAR is a must. You want one if you don't want to get embroiled in the potentially expensive business of an anullment to allow her to legally marry you.

    As for the legal battle to get your house back... good luck. I don't beleive you have a cat in hells chance. As a foreigner, you're not allowed to own the property. I would imagine that its therefore titled in her name. Therefore its legally hers. And its going to be hard for you to prove that it wasn't a gift isn't it? How much money are you talking about? If its less than thirty thousand pounds or so I would seriously recommend not throwing good money after bad on legal fees..
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  2. bigmac
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    if shes married.

    if you do get involved with a married woman over there--you could end up in jail--or face down in a ditch. if she is married--but separated--dont count on getting married any time soon.
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  3. Methersgate
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    Methersgate Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    I think you can pretty much assume that any Filipina has some sort of a boyfriend.

    K has a 20 year old niece whom the whole family thought was impregnable as she was (a) not specially good looking and (b) rather bright and (c) very sensible. No visible sign of a boyfriend at all. But she is six months pregnant...

    As a foreigner, you score "high" on the meal ticket index but "low" on the sexiness quotient unless you are 20 with a six pack and pecs. There is therefore a temptation to add you as a boy friend without dumping the local squeeze, so as to enjoy the best of both worlds - regular remittances, plus great sex with a young stud.
  4. Howerd
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    Howerd Well-Known Member Trusted Member Lifetime Member

    I was in a similar position to you Frank - 4 years in total. But when I learned the truth I just walked away, but writing her a very polite email, to which she never responded. Pursuing a lawsuit could only come back to bite you, especially if she turned out to be married at the time you knew her.
  5. frank
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    Thanks Timmers It is hard not help them as they have so little i feel sorry for them, just think i am going make there lives a little better. And why they take advantage of that i dont understand,If they stayed faithful they would have been far better of in long term.
  6. Timmers
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    I understand what you are saying Frank, it surprises me that they don't use their common sense and shaft you slowly over a long period of time, I guess they are out for a quick gain and do not know how to play the long game :)

    I agree too that it is a good thing to help people in need, but it is all about drawing lines and knowing when enough is enough, regardless of which country you are in, some people will always take advantage of your good nature, that's a fact of life.
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  7. ChoiAndJohn
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    One would hope that one's wife IS enjoying the best of both worlds.. just with the same person. :) Never heard the phrase 'you're only as old as the woman you feel' ?
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  8. frank
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    been up to Edinburgh get my visa extension but still have go every 59 days in phill, big pain.Regards trying get house back lawyer told me i have no chance. she did tell me what she was going to do, just suing her for 300000pesos thats all i can get back but forgot now as it has been ongoing for so long, I have to go to trial on December the 3rd so will see what happens then.As i have said before already paid lawyer up front,and don't have pay her any more.
    Can any one tell me if i can buy Phill health when there, As i used hospital and doctors three times when i was there last time but could not get my money back of my holiday insurance, and this time cheapest i can get is £500 Timmers her mother shafted me for 10000 for motor bike i was buying 15000 deposit she lied, as i bought one later with only 5000 deposit.Will see how it all goes this time
  9. frank
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    I think you can pretty much assume that any Filipina has some sort of a boyfriend. Methers if thats true why have all you guys on here got wife's and girlfriends If it is true i certainly want be trying any more to find a good one as there are none.
  10. Methersgate
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    I should clarify that - I don't mean that every Filipina is an adulteress.

    What I mean is that even an apparently single Filipina will have some sort of a "love interest" in her life, as shown by my niece who concealed a pregnancy for six months. Nobody knew she had a boyfriend until much too late - the useless sperm donor was rightly booted out by her mother, immediately.

    Now, what I mean is that any Filipina may say that she "doesn't have a boyfriend" or "doesn't have a husband" but this statement is not to be taken at face value. Obviously if all was well between her and the current love interest she would not be considering you. If you are definitely an upgrade, she may indeed dump the other one and be faithful to you. Or she may decide to keep her options open...

    Either way, there will be a man, or perhaps a woman, in her life who functions as "love interest" because Filipino society expects that. Look how much fuss is made about Valentine's Day, and so on. Look at the TV soap operas... It's all "lurvv"..
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  11. Timmers
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    You're certainly due a little luck Frank with your Filipina search, to me I can only think you have been moving in the wrong circles to find that loving and honest Filipina we all know and love.
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  12. Timmers
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    What was the problem with the travel insurance not wanting to pay Frank, pre-existing condition or something similar?

    It would be good to think you can get some of your money back from your girl when it goes to court, I wouldn't count on it though.

    I will feel very happy for you when you meet a genuine Filipina who you can trust, lets hope that is soon, remember that your hard earned money will not last forever.

    I abhor people taking advantage of a persons good nature.
  13. aposhark
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    Hi Frank,
    Some poorer people live day-to-day and don't look at the bigger picture. It is a shame but I am afraid it boils down to education and upbringing.
    There are many Filipinos who can look ahead and see the benefits of doing the right thing but some cannot.
    This lack of forward thinking, of course, can apply to any country.
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  14. frank
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    What you said about niece Methers reminded me of another so called good girl i was introduced to, took her out bought her clothes also her family as she had very few, she did work so only could get time off sundays After returning uk in april,my friends who introduce me to her emaile me saying she was pregnant by her boyfriend that no one new she had another just use me get some thing from me.Maybe i just try help them to much and treat them to nice, think i should treat them like i dont care maybe that will help.
  15. bigmac
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    ha ha--bought her and her family stuff--also the boyfriend too ive no doubt. you aint the first--wont be the last.
  16. Anon04576
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    Maybe different circles as Timmer suggested Frank? We're not here to run your life but provide some friendly pointers, which I think may have already been suggested. Maybe get more of a feel for the girl before getting in to deep, keep a bit of distance initially and then you can evaluate the situation a bit more easily and pull back if needed. I think we all wish you luck in finding a nice lady.
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  17. frank
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    Timers my friends who introduce me girl there are seventh day Adventist spend more time in church reading bible than any one i know and as i spend 6 months in same apartment block as them i know they are good people, they all thought girl who got pregnant was same as she go church all the time. So i am not trying get bar girl or ktv babe or what ever they called.
  18. frank
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    i went doctors as i kept feeling faint said i was dehydrated, not drinking enough water. gave me receipt. Had go hospital for stitches and injection as i dropped one of those roof sheets down my leg when helping Danny with them. they also gave me receipt. came to only few pounds. sent them off but never heard from insurance company. So not bothering this time as i am there six months they will only insure for 90 days. and at cost as much as flight.
  19. Timmers
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    Try and take it easy while you are there Frank, if you have to help a friend out then do a little risk assessment in your head before you perform the task.

    The girls want you fit and well :)
  20. ChoiAndJohn
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    Frankly I don't think you should be spending too much money. People will ruthlessly use you. You should know that from your own experience. Personally I think you're better of finding a woman there that doesn't chase you. I would just get to know some people in your everyday life and forget about women. There are plenty of them around. Sooner or later, you will encounter someone you click with and that doesn't want to use you.
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