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We have 12 years to limit climate change catastrophe, warns UN

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  1. KeithAngel
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    Quick!!! Lets tax the **** out of ourselves before it`s too late!
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    Said this before, there are ample intrinsic benefits for everyone in simply cleaning up the mess, whether you believe in climate change or not.

    Look at Manila or most of China, lung and heart disease rife in part due to the terrible air quality, fix that the right way and you are well on your way to fixing the climate as well.

    The deniers usually have base self interest at heart, an immediate profit and to hell with the cost attitude.

    Of course it would take a lot more than just fixing city pollution which is the result of rapid industrialisation but almost all of the fixes have an economic payback never mind the simple quality of life payback.
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    I agree and I`m doing my bit!
    It only makes sense IF it benefits me financially though.. Ice cold SMB is 50 Peso at the tiki bar now,so I hope you understand.
    Just built a 60 meter border wall ,2 meters high with unwanted glass bottles...Another 2000 meters to go.
    Imagine the energy it would have taken to melt that lot down and recycle them !
    With the huge amount of money Im gonna save on rebar and hollow blocks,I can begin buying solar panels for the beginning of a 5K solar array.
    Doing my bit...
    What about you lot? What have you been doing to save humanity lately?
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    Government think tank could save earth.


    Michael Gove:
    Let homeowners take home reusable rubbish found at council dumps.

    Homeowners should be allowed to scavenge for old televisions, furniture and appliances at dumps so they can reuse them, Michael Gove has suggested.

    The Environment secretary told a meeting that he wanted to change rules at council recycling centres so people can recover valuables.

    Currently, many local authorities ban people from taking away anything their tips,however Mr Gove said he wanted the rules to be relaxed.

    According to the Sunday Times, Mr Gove told a meeting: “We must reduce the amount of material we waste.
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politic...ge-waste-council-dumps/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_fb
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    This is what they want you to think that the world is dying and his call to action is based on a theory - a friend of mine now passed away Get a blog which is most informative https://tallbloke.wordpress.com/category/propaganda/

    What is better to say crisis coming back and the wages of sin are death, You can save yourself by saving the planet - All we need to debank that idea Is the volcano........
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    Well, I spent most of my working life selling people energy saving materials and equipment. :like:
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    From five years ago

    Climate change? Try catastrophic climate breakdown
    The message from the IPCC report is familiar and shattering: it's as bad as we thought it was

    "But denial is only part of the problem. More significant is the behaviour of powerful people who claim to accept the evidence. This week the former Irish president Mary Robinson added her voice to a call that some of us have been making for years: the only effective means of preventing climate breakdown is to leave fossil fuels in the ground. Press any minister on this matter in private and, in one way or another, they will concede the point. Yet no government will act on it.

    As if to mark the publication of the new report, the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills has now plastered a giant poster across its ground-floor windows: "UK oil and gas: Energising Britain. £13.5bn is being invested in recovering UK oil and gas this year, more than any other industrial sector."

    The message couldn't have been clearer if it had said "up yours". It is an example of the way in which all governments collaborate in the disaster they publicly bemoan. They sagely agree with the need to do something to avert the catastrophe the panel foresees, while promoting the industries that cause it."

    https://www.theguardian.com/environ.../27/ipcc-climate-change-report-global-warming
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    70 pence a bottle for SMB what's the current price of a bottle from your local Sari-Sari?

    Indeed what's the wholesale price per bottle to a small Sari-Sari buying it in for resale?

    Regards doing my bit, I'm doing nothing really apart from helping to make some factories a little teensy bit more efficient, I live in a tiny flat rather than house but that does not really save on power consumption, I buy one tank of petrol every 6 or 7 weeks because I don't go anywhere and all my computers and cameras are second hand apart from the Surface Book the work gave me and I keep them forever, and I have a lot of phones but I never throw them away and I don't replace for the sake of fashion and out of the current lot I only bought one myself and that was on eBay, I buy a handful of tee-shirts every year and wear them till I look like a tramp, and I do one wash in the machine every week.
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    Human activity puts out 60 times more C02 than all the worlds volcanos each year, people have no idea.
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    Well there's a reason for keeping eBay's taxes low it is a giant recycler :)

    To be honest you don't want people recovering old CRT Tele's and the likes as they are power gluttons, yes some stuff that ends up at the tip is actually pretty new but most of it is well past it and not worth recovering.

    Regards recovering furniture do we really want homes full of parasite colonies inhabiting old sofa's and beds that have been brought back from the dump.
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    Ice cold is 3o Peso from one store I buy from..I sometimes sit on the bamboo seating and drink it there..

    A case of beer is around 580.00/600 for 24 now so about 25 Peso each...Lets say 2 Peso to get it cold.
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    I pay 600 for Red Horse delivered. 580 for Pilson.
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    That tends to depend where you go "tatting" comparitively wealthy boomers throw excellent furniture and rugs away if they havnt discovered freecycle on facebook Ive refurnished an entire house except for matresses and now oven and carpets you have to able to recognise little used from bug ridden:)
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    I chucked a load of stuff in the skip when I moved here, next morning it was almost empty lol. was it you?:lol:
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    The challenge for climate change is that people are sceptical about the science, think an increase of 1.5 C is a good thing or think that as we are 1.6% of climate damage its not worth doing anything about it.

    A side effect of climate friendly policies though is reduced pollution also. Lets try and save upto 40,000 people and £6 billion at least

    https://www.nhs.uk/news/heart-and-lungs/air-pollution-kills-40000-a-year-in-the-uk-says-report/

    https://www.independent.co.uk/envir...icles-health-bills-lung-disease-a8384806.html

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/envi...tiondoesvegetationremoveinyourarea/2018-07-30
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    When we had the shop for a couple of months 6 years ago (never doing that again) she was getting wholesale of about 22 peso a bottle I think so it sounds like it hasn't gone up too much, I think I paid about 600 and something plus bottle deposit for a crate last time I was over, that was in Metro Manila, I wasn't drinking at the time as I had quit for several months before that, but I did eventually take a bottle to be sociable with the guests.
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    Where I live, the dump is pretty much a dump although the street I live just off from is full of one million pound and above mansions, they must all be Scottish as they're too tight to throw out anything good :D
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