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Discussion in 'General Chit Chat' started by Kuya, Aug 28, 2014.

  1. Markham
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    Along with Bob Ward, John Rainey, the DK moderator and several others, you mean?! Yes, well that's the story Paul uses to explain why key members of his Forum staff suddenly disappeared but in fact we'de all left the day before and had changed his record of our email addresses for fake ones.
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    A little refresher.

    My words.

    Ok I was being nice I summed everything from your first post in the Politics section to today, now let's use your suggested time periods, 2 years, 18 months and oh lets be generous and try 1 year as well.

    So I have now confined my search to the last year or so. with 'so' being two years, at two years you are way out in front of Dom, how about 18 months? Close run? Ah sadly no you outdid Keith by 3 to 1, lets get closer to now how about 20th of July last year until now, erm nope still you still beat Keith 3 to 1 and Bluebird by 2 to 1.

    My words 'a period of years not weeks or months' I didn't say I would start from the beginning but being generous I did start from your first post in the politics section for a fair comparison, now not everyone has been a member for all the time that you have been here so these alternative timespans are fairer to them.

    Having now confined my 'period of years' to between two years and one year ago it appears that I am actually a lot more accurate, and in fact it wasn't anywhere near a close run thing between you and Keith and Keith clearly didn't create nearly 34 politics threads in the last few months did he, and unlike your misleading characterisation and use of variable length timescales, Aromulus certainly didn't create 122 threads in a short space of time, on these timescales Dom has posted far fewer threads.

    1437350400 = 20 July 2015 - 2 years ago

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    1451606400 = 1st January 2016 - about 19 months

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    1468972800 = 20th July 2016 - 1 year ago

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  3. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    Why as Mods would you do that?
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  4. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    Andrew it was John Jones and I don't think he meant it in a nasty way, he seems to be a very nice bloke, sometimes the funny smiley is just used to indicate a very big smile.
  5. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    John is a sweetheart we chat sometimes since we met at the Barrio in Birmingham last year not a drop of side to him
  6. Aromulus
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    Aromulus The Don Staff Member

    Welsh John is sound as a pound.
    Great sense of humour.
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  7. Anon04576
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    Anon04576 Well-Known Member

    I concur, decent chap John.
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  8. oss
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    What your arithmetic is suggesting that my threads were much more interesting than anyone else's :D

    I don't think I can accept that compliment :D I expect they were pretty dull.

    Including Graham's results below seeing as you asked :D

    Just so you actually understand, as this is by no means any kind of serious statistical analysis and I am not doing bar charts or other graphs to show trends, the 'own_replies_as_percentage_of_replies_to_own_threads' column represents a rough view of the opening poster's engagement with their own thread, higher numbers on a large thread count may indicate defence of a set or series of positions, it certainly indicates volume as in a volume control on a radio :D

    Given that it is a simple relation between the thread owners posts and the total number of replies it implies a bit about how much the threads matter to the thread owner, a very coarse measure by any standards but hey I'm just trying to get an overall picture.

    Yeah Keith you are loud ;) :D the numbers say it is so, so it must be true :lol: it appears I am even louder but more about that in a moment :D

    Bigmac on your one political thread you replied to yourself, by the looks of the numbers, so the volume was at max no one could hear you better than you, sorry mate ;) :) (numbers are fun and I am only jesting my friend)

    Graham one thread and a load of devastation (good view count by the way :)) and none of it your fault as you were almost totally disengaged from it, ace! :D :thumbup:

    Most of the rest of us do seem to like the sound of our own voices (when typing...) :D but you have to remember that integer division on small samples is not going to be very accurate for the people that don't own a lot of threads, small periods of time and thread owners that don't post a lot will have exaggerated numbers under these measures, for example poor Paul who would suffer an integer division of zero by zero and by definition be undefined :D

    This is the expanded one year view that includes Graham's thread.

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  9. Markham
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    Don't underestimate your capabilities and your appeal. You do post some great stuff and I wish I had even one hundredth of your photographic genius; I've got the gear (Nikon), just not the talent :(. No, your stuff is truly interesting. :)

    Thank you! You commented on Graham's high view count, do you have any idea what Xenforo uses as its "trigger" - is it the number of times that the database is interrogated: by session_id or in total (ie total requests for data)? The first metric would, I think, be a more accurate measure of interest in the topic but more costly to arrive at. So I suspect it's the latter - total database hits.

    It is natural, no, for the thread owner to be engaged in his topic and, from a community point of view, it is desirable. Threads are topics of conversation after all. But obviously the 'own_replies_as_percentage_of_replies_to_own_threads' should ideally not exceed 50 although there may be circumstances where this is inevitable; a "breaking news" type thread, for example, such as my #DespiteBrexit thread.

    Thank you for taking the time and trouble to do the research, Jim, but has anything been proven? Other than yours is the loudest voice!! :D
  10. Markham
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    Oh, whilst I have your attention .... please put Keith out of his misery, he's unable to start new threads extolling the benefits of Corbynism because all his time is being taken by finding and removing all my positive ratings which are down to 1945 as I post this. A simple SQL command should remove all my ratings in the twinkling of an eye!
  11. Markham
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    That's true, Mike, but you may have noticed that threads that really belong in the Politics section are being opened elsewhere. If this carries on, soon there won't be a section with no political threads.

    No wonder decent members are no longer active.
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    I didn't say that.

    This is what I said:

    I am therefore going to be posting here only when I need advice or when I am sure that the advice I am offering is correct.

    I've noticed that the Rules have changed since I brought K and k here, and I was giving wrong advice.
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  13. Dave_E
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    Dave_E Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    We need more discussion about life in the Philippines.

    I particularly liked your video post last week about the Chinese vision for Subic. :like:

    And Don Papa Rum, not tried it yet, but I will do, more of a Cerveza Negra chap myself.

    I guess that like a decent Tequila in Mexico, Don Papa should be drunk straight.
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  14. Anon04576
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    Well maybe I focused on the "stop offering advice which is probably going to be wrong." statement.

    However as you are relatively current with your families visa then the offer of your advice (when correct) to others will of course be appreciated Andrew.
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  15. ChoiAndJohn
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    ChoiAndJohn Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Very interesting. I'm not a member of any other Internet forum and indeed this is only the second time I've used an Internet forum in my life - I'm not really an Internet social media sort of person. I agree that there seem to be a lot of political threads. I also feel that the quality of threads measured as a function of how much I'm inclined to respond has declined over time. It occurred to me that I probably have not myself started enough threads either. I know that my wife has been disappointed that she has not spoken to more Filipina here.
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  16. Anon04576
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    Im guessing the view count is simply a single increment of the page_id/thread_id within the database as the page/thread is being requested by the browser.
  17. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    To many political threads in various non related sections.

    We know what happens when a Filipino tries to offer opinions!
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  18. Markham
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    Freedom of speech or lazy moderation?
  19. Aromulus
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    I would think it is the first option.

    I only move threads if somebody is trying to circumvent the swear filter.
    And certainly we do not, as admins, delete threads for the sake of it. We might close some of them... but not delete.

    The problem arises when someone butts in with a political post on an innocent thread, and then escalates from there.
  20. Markham
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    The problem is, though, that threads that are political in nature are being started elsewhere and not in the politics section.

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