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Why on earth is Lee Rigby's killer allowed to appeal his 45 year sentence

Discussion in 'News from the UK, Europe and the rest of the World' started by Timmers, Jul 15, 2014.

  1. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    I just read that the killer of Lee Rigby has been granted an appeal on his 45 year sentence, why the hell does the government throw the tax payers money away like this?

    If they want to chuck some money away then please let them chuck it in my direction, I'm sure I can spend it on something more worthwhile.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28319785
  2. Howerd
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    Howerd Well-Known Member Trusted Member Lifetime Member

    He was lucky not to have been killed by Police after he killed Lee Rigby. If he was looking to be a martyr he should do the right thing now and kill himself. Any murderer receives a life sentence and will only be released on licence if it is considered safe to do so. 45 years would be his minimum tariff and even if that minimum tariff were reduced that does not mean he would necessarily be released at the end of that period.
  3. Anon220806
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

    I strongly disagree. They should send the money my way! :D
  4. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Like you said, its very unlikely he will ever see the light of day, that's why I think its a waste of the tax payers money.

    Hanging should be brought back for these blatant terrorist attacks, justice is done and it saves the tax payer literally millions of pounds.
  5. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    I've just paid for a visa and lots of other things connected with it, definitely goes to me, I'm probably poorer than you too :lol: and if I'm not I soon will be.
  6. Markham
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    Britain has swung from punishing criminals quite severely to giving them more rights and consideration than their victims - and all since the end of World War 2. Blame the rise of social scientists and the liberal-minded who became Probation Officers. One of my aunts was a Probation Officer - she was the most senior in the whole of the south-east when she retired - and was a firm believer in "restorative justice" - she argued that someone convicted of a crime should be treated leniently if they apologise to their victim. Needless to say, this placed her at odds with the rest of the family who were more of the "flog 'em or hang 'em" persuasion.

    It has got to the stage whereby a burglar who breaks into your house has more rights than you, the householder and if he trips-up, falls and injures himself he can sue you for endangerment and injuries sustained. However some senior Police Officers have changed their earlier, long-given advice and now say that a householder can protect himself and members of his family against any intruder, providing they use "reasonable force", and would be most unlikely to face prosecution.

    Both Michael Adebowale and Michael Adebolajo - who were convicted of Fusilier Rigby's brutal murder - announced earlier this year that they intended to appeal their sentences but the grounds for appeal have not been made public. Maybe they believe their human rights have been impinged upon, who knows! Given the severity of their crime and the public's reaction, I would hope that they lose their appeals but it is a shocking waste of public money. I doubt anyone involved in this has given even the briefest consideration to the effect that an appeal would have on Rigby's family - who will now have to endure being in the public gaze once more.
  7. Aromulus
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    Aromulus The Don Staff Member

    It makes one, almost, wish for some patriotic lag, already on life without parole, to re-adjust the balance of things...
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  8. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    I couldn't have put it better myself Mr Don, I really couldn't.

    Lets hope your wish comes true.
  9. Kuya
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    Kuya The Geeky One Staff Member

    Everyone deserves a fair trial and an appeals process, let's not wish that away just yet.

    And an appeal can be a double edged sword, they've also been known to increase a sentence when a cocky criminal like this tries to make a mockery of the system.
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  10. Methersgate
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    Methersgate Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    I suspect that waking up every day and feeling that, at any moment, any other prisoner might decide to be patriotic and either beat you up or kill you, must add something to the sentence.
  11. Aromulus
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    Aromulus The Don Staff Member

    A sense of real exquisite justice.......
  12. Dave_E
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    Dave_E Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Fat cat lawyers will be rubbing their hands in glee.
    The evil chap* will be protected 24/7, unfortunately.

    * = I did want to use another word here
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  13. Methersgate
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    Methersgate Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    And the evil chap* knows that if that protection fails for a moment, he is going to be beaten up or killed.

    * so did I
  14. Aromulus
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    Aromulus The Don Staff Member

    * that item you referring to, is quite useful for destressing and leisurly pursuits.......
  15. Anon220806
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

    To be honest, they should be locked up for their term. And then that should be the end of the story. They should be assigned to history.

    Certain categories of offender and this one falls inside the line, should forgo their right of appeal.

    Time to forget these guys. There is no mitigating circumstances for this one. Is there?
  16. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    There is no way they should be allowed to appeal the length of their sentences, consideration should be given to the family Lee Rigby and the tax payers pocket.
  17. Anon220806
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

    Turn it on its head a little, Timmers. Give them any benefit of the doubt you can muster. Do you think they have any mitigating circumstances that might warrent a succesful appeal?
  18. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    None what so ever.
  19. Aromulus
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    Aromulus The Don Staff Member

    "They is" of different colour and persuasion...???
  20. Anon220806
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

    Exactly. So they are behind bars for a long term, as they should be. And we shouldnt need to have to even think about them again.

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