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World cup predictions

Discussion in 'Sport Talk' started by Mattecube, May 30, 2018.

  1. Mattecube
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    Its took me ages to read Nevin's list of honours in the game
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    I think your right about Henderson, Jones and Delph and probably wont play leading roles if any in the games.
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    The boys did well, Stirling just needs a better eye in front of goal (hopefully soon) but he is not hiding which is great to see, a good game to watch in the first half after the mass substitutions it wasnt so great a game
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    Ah right. I didnt see any of the game as I was travelling.
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    Greaves was a very likeable character. However he went to seed in the years after the World Cup. And one of the factors for that surely included his liking for a drink or two.

    He had been lethal as a goal scorer. But he failed to score in any of the games he did play in the 66 World Cup.
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    The death of Jimmy Jnr (his young son) must also of been a factor.
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    Jimmy Greaves was one of the greatest English goal scorers of all time . His goals to games ratio at international level was fantastic .

    As Mattecube says above , the death of a young child must be devastating , and no doubt contributed greatly to how his life changed , particularly after his playing career ended and he had more time on his hands .

    A great player , and a very likeable guy . I'm glad he's managed to turn his life around again now .
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    To be honest, although I was at the England Uruguay game I do not remember much about it, being a young boy and it being a nil nil draw and all that. And do not remember Greaves at all at that point. I did watch him playing for Tottenham against West Ham and later, playing for West Ham. By the time he got to West Ham he had definitely lost his touch.


    I just watched this. He certainly seems to be able to handle the press.

    I also think he draws a lot of his current inspiration from Terry Venables who he played under.

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    There is a similar press handling style between the two although perhaps Southgate is a tad less flamboyant.
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    Some might say he is a bit boring but he handles them very well, whilst not being short on major tournament experience.
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    When they say he is boring what they mean is he does not give them anything to sensationilize!
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  12. Sanders
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    Exactly.
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    The most important thing is not how he talks to the press but how well the team does.
    They have a lot to do to make the country proud again.
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    That goes without saying but dealing with the press is part of that. Some England managers have done very poorly in that area in the past. It is important to keep the press and public onside. The last manager to do that well was Ramsey.

    Incidentally. This makes for good reading. Many of the players he has picked have tournament football experience already:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44237903

    And look how many have good champions league experience and played under some of the best coaches on the world.
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    Bobby Moore for a knighthood or is it because he lifted more than the World Cup alone that he was never given that accolade?
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    Robson did it well so did Venables Greenwood did OK from what I recall as did Mercer! Poor where Keegan, Sven, Capachino and Revie the traitor
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    Yes, I was probably a bit harsh on some of those exceptions you mentioned. I seem to recall Robson getting a lot of sheet but did well notwithstanding.

    This article encapsulates what I remember of the slagging off Robson got from the press:

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2009/jul/31/sir-bobby-robson-media-england-manager

    “This was not only because he was a rare success abroad or because his tactics continually adapted to suit each new era, but because of his treatment at the hands of an ever more rapacious media. In his latter years Sir Bobby was recast as a national treasure, but during eight years as England manager he was the first to feel the unyielding, invasive pressure of an increasingly demanding press. In the 1980s that had its ugly side, as he became the first England manager to suffer so severely at the hands of a tabloid press that had begun to devote ever more space to sport in general and football in particular.”

    Southgate seems to deal with the press extremely well.
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    Well the prophets of doom have started already in the shape of Stuart Pearce, I wonder if Gareth will follow Stuart' example when he was manager and his side needing a goal and he substituted the goalkeeper.
    Go Stuart go! Another has been
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    Let’s see how they get on tonight at Leeds.

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