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Discussion in 'General Chit Chat' started by CampelloChris, May 2, 2020.

  1. Anon220806
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    It’s called “reaquisition” though so it isn’t a case of retaining it. It has to be reaquired. Retain and reaquire are a little different.

    I know what you mean about shambollic though.

    So my wife wouldn’t have attempted to enter the Philippines on her old Filipino passport. She returned there on her UK passport last time. We didn’t want her to put this all to the test. :D
  2. bigmac
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    my wife renewed her fili passport a year ago..10 years i guess? i'm damn sure she will want to get her moneys worth out of it. i think when it ends she will either renew it--or apply for re-aquisition.

    its like we never notified about our getting married--she uses the name on her passport--same as BRP--and UK tax and NI records. it suits us--and saves a few quid.
  3. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    They actually use that terminology regards this topic.

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  4. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    https://lawphil.net/statutes/repacts/ra2003/ra_9225_2003.html

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  5. Anon220806
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    I see that. Thanks.

    Well presumably if you don’t go through the reaquisition / retention procedure then you do not retain citizenship of the Philippines.

    Taking the oath requires a seperate ceremony which calls for more form filling and more money etc. Mrs Ash did not take those and would have had to have applied through the Philippine embassy to enable her to “retain / reaquire “ her Filipino citizenship. She does not have dual nationality.
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  6. oss
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    Correct, although I think that could only be determined through tracing marriage registrations and cross referencing with reacquisition applications.
  7. Maharg
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    You only need to notify them of marriage if she wants to change the name on the passport.

    I remember getting in an argument at the Embassy because the website information was wrong so we had to go away and come back another time. They just said that the website was out of date!
  8. bigmac
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    TWO visits to that embassy. what a nightmare.
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  9. Bluebirdjones
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    Just to add my tuppence worth ....as we've been thru it...

    When you apply for, and get granted British citizenship, you automatically lose your Filipino citizenship.
    You don't need to renounce it ...... its automatic.

    How the Filipino authorities will know, is debatable....... but they certainly ask the question when you renew your Filipino passport
    (If memory serves me, there'a section on the renewal form, stating something like "have you acquired other citizenship" )
    ..... and if the answer is Yes, they stamp holes in your current Filipino passport, making it invalid !

    So, when the new passport is available, they only hand it over to you AFTER you have done the re-confirmation & oath ceremony.
    No oath = no new passport.
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  10. Anon220806
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    That’s exactly how we experienced it. Except my wife hasn’t bothered to reapply for Filipino citizenship and passport. Her choice, mainly because of the faff of going through that further process weighed up against any benefit. She has decided that on balance she is happy with UK citizenship only and the benefits it brings. We were seriously considering her reapplication but never quite got around to it.

    Hopefully when re entering the Philippines and then exiting using her UK passport she will not get pounced on for being a UK citizen born in the Philippines and not having paid into Philhealth. :)
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  12. Aromulus
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    Sitting for hours, waiting for your number to be called, making sure to have a shedload of coins for the ever busy copy machine, back to sitting for a while longer while they seem to be busy doing something, being surreptitiously financially assessed by searching mothers of nubile visa aspiring maidens while being watched by the wife's beady eyes, in case of transgressions..
    Next time I will wait at the Pizza Express not far from there, even if I hate the place...
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  13. Maharg
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    So does this mean it was only ever intended for OFWs in the first place?
  14. Aromulus
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    reckon so, but with Philippnes bureocracy one never knows what they mean for real..

    Sometime when I read some articles, to me, they seem to be contradictory in places, unless it is just my impression.
    The problem is that they start a sentence in english and then continue in Tagalog with the odd english interspersed ...
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  15. Maharg
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    Definitely. I nearly put "as clear as mud as usual" on my post, but decided not to in case it was just me being a bit dim.
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  16. oss
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    The thing is the wording was clear 'All Filipinos' and while there is an official OWWA programme with the concept of an OFW I think they tend to treat anyone overseas as an OFW whether they are long term migrants or not.

    At best all you could say is that it was a bad and unclear law.
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    I sat on a wall in Trafalgar square for a while..in the sun..while a rubbish orchestra was grinding out various attempts at tunes. Still..the army of miscellaneous tourists, pigeons and other life forms seemed to like it.
  18. Maharg
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    Our own particular highlight was early breakfast at Caffe Concerto, which is on Haymarket nearby.

    Always best to go early in my opinion.
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