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First visit to Phils coming up (late Jan '17) - currency advice please

Discussion in 'Travel Tips and Advice' started by Scotschap16, Dec 22, 2016.

  1. Scotschap16
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    Scotschap16 Well-Known Member

    Getting this back on track I note from the Tesco Bank website that cash over 10,000 pesos has to be declared. I propose to take a bit more than this next week and I was wondering if others had faced this same situation - and, if so, what they did about it? How and when does one declare this anyway - and is there any difficulty having done so?

    Thanks kindly.

    Gerry
  2. uklove
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    10,000 PHP is the max you can take in and you have to declare that you haven't exceeded it.
    Also...make sure you have contact numbers for your bank and credit card company.
    I found that even after informing my bank (Natwest) my card was usually declined at the third time of use meaning i had to phone home.
    Enjoy your trip!
  3. oss
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    That's actually changed, it is now 50,000 peso since the 15th of September last year, I didn't realise this change had happened.

    The change applies to import of peso and export!

    http://www.philippine-embassy.org.sg/the-philippines-2/bringing-currency-into-the-philippines/
  4. oss
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    Honestly Gerry the money changers here in the UK will rob you blind, converting pounds here into peso is a very very very bad bargain, I would not take more than 5000 in peso, and at the worst your hotel (if you are in a hotel) will probably offer you a reasonable exchange rate for pounds, not as good as a good local Philippine money changer but nowhere near as bad as Travelex or Cheque Centre or any other UK Money changer.

    You will even get a better deal in the airport when you arrive compared to the UK, although personally I generally don't like using the airport money changers over there.

    If you want a safe simple money changer over there use any SM Supermarket or Hypermarket again the rate won't be great but it won't be terrible either.
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  5. uklove
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  6. oss
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    I wanted to verify that information as the site is the Philippine embassy in Singapore so I found this on the BSP (Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas)

    http://www.bsp.gov.ph/downloads/Publications/FAQs/faqfxreg.pdf

    http://www.bsp.gov.ph

    They often take a while to update forms but the above would appear to be the current rules, given the exchange rate woes of recent times I would be more interested in leaving with that kind of amount rather than arriving having exchanged pounds in the UK.
  7. steven
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    when I go over I just withdraw cash out of a atm machine, I didn't take any peso or sterling with me. when I did withdraw cash my bank charged a fixed fee think it was like £2.99 per withdrawal, il see if I can look back to find out exactly, my first trip there I informed my bank I was going but I also used it 3 times before Barclays stop it and had to make a phone call to sort it out.
  8. graham59
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    Tip:

    You can call British 0800 numbers FREE when you're in the Phils, by using Skype phonecall. :)
    Might not help with your bank, but possibly something else (like government departments, utilities, etc).
  9. uklove
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    uklove Active Member

    No-one believed me when i said i could get the call cost reversed..
  10. oss
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    The Philippine bank that ran the ATM more than likely also charged you around another 200 peso, it might have been disguised in the exchange rate, but you lose big time.

    I believe that 200 peso is charged on any size of transaction that involves a foreign card in one of their ATMs so if you only withdraw 3000 peso the sum of your UK and Philippine charges can become a vast proportion of what you actually withdraw.

    The reason they reduced the single transaction withdrawal limit back in 2007 I think (could be wrong plus or minus a year or two) was to clean up on those transaction fess, at least partly, the other reason was that pounds and dollars were less valuable and the foreign punter was more likely to withdraw a larger amount as he or she was getting a much poorer exchange rate (about 83 peso at the time) so they had to use the ATM more often and that meant 'kerching' (the sound) in the registers :)
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  11. SoldierRJ88
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    I thought it was upto 10,000USD in with out being declared but only 10,000 paso out.
  12. oss
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    There is a difference between foreign currency and Philippine currency, Philippine currency is severely restricted, foreign currency less so.

    They are always glad of foreign currency particularly when it gets spent in the country, this increases dollar, sterling or euro reserves as it came in got spent and didn't leave, the Philippines sold goods and services for dollars and so on and stashed them away.

    50,000 Philippine peso in and out now according to those links and still 10,000 USD equivalent in or out without having to declare it, you can bring in more than 10,000 dollars you just have to declare it, which as you can imagine is not a great idea when you are alone and in a foreign airport surrounded by armed customs officers and carrying a very large amount of dosh ;) :)

    The peso limit is an absolute limit that you cannot exceed in or out and to be honest I would stick to the old limit of 10,000 peso just now but that link I posted says the rules have changed.
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  13. SoldierRJ88
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    Owe I see oss so the paso limit is 10,000 but any other currency upto 10,000USD and yes you have a fair point there.
  14. oss
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    Correct, but the actual peso limit is now 50,000 as per my links, I was surprised at that as it has been 10,000 peso for such a long time and as I said I would stick to the 10,000 limit for the time being, people at the sharp end in airports are not always up to date with the rules so not worth the risk of a confrontation.
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  15. SoldierRJ88
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    Cheers for the good advice as always oss.
  16. Markham
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    The exchange rate I was getting at HSBC in Cebu from July to December that year was in excess of 95. The rate was dropping throughout the second half of the year from 98/99 in June/July to 95/96 by December and continued the downward trend ever since.
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    According to friends of the wife, the limit being observed at NAIA is Php10,000 as of last week.
  18. oss
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    Yeah that's what happens, but there is no denying that the BSP is publishing the higher value on their official web site.
  19. oss
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    I didn't look it up I was going with a gut feel for what I was getting towards the middle and end of 2007, on December 11th when Ana returned to the Phils via Manchester airport, I changed enough cash at the airport to get her home and they were offering about 67 which was a real shock even given the normal terrible rates at UK airports.
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    I have now checked, when I arrived in manila in late October it was in the region of 90 I was only there for a week to bring Ana back to the UK with me (she got her Korean passport that summer) by Christmas when I went back over it was down in the region of 83, the day Ana returned there must have been an intra day spike that resulted in the Travlex offering only 67.

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