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Best proofs of reasons to return home. Visitor visa.

Discussion in 'UK Visa and Immigration Help' started by Tygrrysek, Sep 20, 2017.

  1. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    http://www.msz.gov.pl/en/travel_to_poland/entering_poland/
  2. ChoiAndJohn
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    Were you dropped on your head as a child?
    You embody the wisdom of the maxim 'Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience'.
    Do what you want. You will receive no more assistance from me. Good luck.
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  3. Anon04576
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    Anon04576 Well-Known Member

    Fair comment.
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    register office?
  5. Markham
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    Well done! What you write is correct but you should pay particular attention to the caveats:
    • You need to have Permanent Residency in the UK
    • "unmarried partners aren’t guaranteed to get a permit."
    • She will need to apply for a Residence Card in order to be remain in the UK after 6 months and/or to take employment
    • The Residence Card will expire when the UK exits the EU - however this is likely to change.
    Proving an enduring relationship may be a potential stumbling-block.
  6. Tygrrysek
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  7. Markham
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    No. Given that the UK is exiting the EU, the Home Office has already issued a warning that Residence Permits will expire on Brexit Day. At that point, unless your girlfriend qualifies under whatever scheme replaces the current one, she will have to leave otherwise she will be classed as an overstayer and that would adversely affect any future visa applications.
  8. Tygrrysek
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    You don't read correctly. Even that I have pernament residency in the UK as I live here for 12 years now I don't really need to have it. Just 3 months of working is enough. You skipped very important or

    EEA family members
    You must show that your EEA family member has a permanent right of residence or is one of the following if they’ve been in the UK for more than 3 months:

    • working, for example an employment contract, wage slips or a letter from an employer
    • self-employed (for example contracts, invoices or audited accounts with bank statements) and paying tax and National Insurance
    • studying, for example a letter from the school, college or university
    • financially independent, for example bank statements
  9. Mattecube
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    :frust:
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  10. Tygrrysek
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    Thanks bigmac, but I don't really need any advice. I'm just sharing my good news with you. :)

    assistance? You are really amusing. I didn't ever ask you for any assistance and you never give me any. Just some bullshit about WW II trying to tempt me to argue with you, and only moaning that I can't do it, it will never happen and I will be always unsuccessful no matter how many times I will be trying. :p

    To be honest at the start I feelt little bit sorry for you and your situation but now I think I started to like you. You are funny. :)
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    [​IMG]seen in Tesco
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  12. Tygrrysek
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    Ha ha good one. :)
    There's lots of them in shops in Poland. :)
  13. Tygrrysek
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    As a British citizen you should know that UK as a country respect the law very much. And law never works backwards. After Brexit the law will change to the new people, but they will not take away anything you already acquired. They can change the name, but they never take away any status from anyone who already possess it.
  14. DavidAlma
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    Is this not the SSR method?
  15. Markham
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    I would not bet the farm on that! The rights that you currently possess as a EU citizen living in the UK are greater than those a British citizen enjoys, especially when it comes to bringing-in family members. I think you would be foolish to assume that the current status quo will pertain post-Brexit - it may do but on the other hand, it may not. You may find your rights become the same as those we enjoy and that will not thrill you, I'm sure.
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    This is not accurate either. As mentioned before, you really should make sure you know your facts before speaking.

    Although laws with a retroactive effect are generally frowned upon in the UK, any country with a westminster system of Parliament can pass an 'ex post facto' law - that is - one that applies to acts committed or relationships that existed before the law. One such example of a law passed in the UK was The Pakistan Act 1980 which applied as if enacted 9 months before the law was written. Another, more significant example, is the removal of the concept of 'double jepoardy' by the Criminal Justice Act 2003. This permits people to be retried for the same offense, even if previously found innocent, if new and compelling evidence arises to bring the previous judgement into question. Taxation law is also frequently changed retroactively, which results in new taxation liabilities being assessed for transactions that legally occurred years before the amendment.

    There is nothing that prevents the UK parliament legislating precisely how it wishes.
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  17. Markham
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    Very similar except that SSR is employed by a British citizen and their non-EU spouse whilst the OP - a Pole - has these rights enshrined in EU law.
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  18. ChoiAndJohn
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    Apart from the small fact that this does not apply to our Polish friend because he is not married or in a civil partnership. He seeks to find a way to easily bring his girlfriend into the UK - and as explained to him at great length, a UK tourist visa application may not prove successful, and an EU 'extended family member' permit will only permit her to remain for six months absent a residence permit, which will not be granted unless she can demonstrate that she is dependent on him.
    However, trying to explain this is rather like trying to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time, and it annoys the pig. :)
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  20. Markham
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    He may be able to do that if he can prove that she is totally reliant on his financial support whilst she's in the Philippines. That and the fact that she can not seek employment until she has been granted a Residence Permit. However, I would hope that Family Permits are not handed-out to non-EUs free in a pack of PG Tips and that the ECO requires a certain period of cohabitation in order to satisfy the "enduring relationship" pre-requisite. Two years should suffice :)

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