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UK to end freedom of movement for EU citizens on day one of Brexit, under new government plan

Discussion in 'Europe Wide Visa Discussions' started by KeithAngel, Aug 18, 2019.

  1. KeithAngel
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    Thats one that gets offered up but never actually discussed it has a quasi spiritual status
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  3. Markham
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    Not a proposition I can support particularly when May's government has for at least the last 2 years maintained that FoM to the Uk will not stop on exit day. And then there's the Windrush scandal.

    There's none so racist as members of ethnic minority groups. Patel is taking her lead from them.
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  4. KeithAngel
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    I remember her last sacking well which ethnic minority does she support I wonder?
  5. Br28016
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    As Irish he is covered under common travel area arrangements. Irish always had ability to move to UK without EU regulations to support it.
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  6. oss
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    Settled status has to be applied for and the lad and his wife of one week (a teacher from Ireland living here) have yet to apply, he has stated before now that if they are forced to do that he and his wife would probably just pack up and return to Ireland.

    More to the point the paper I linked to makes it clear that preservation of the CTA is not within the gift of the Prime Minister nor parliament nor the Irish parliament, neither party on their own or together can make legally binding unilateral or joint statements about this without regard to commitments to the EU that are already incorporated into the Irish constitution.

    This is by no means simple with regard to the future deadline that is rapidly approaching.
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  9. aposhark
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    Too many remainer questions and not enough time to tell them again that they LOST.
    Get over it :boxer:
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  10. Druk1
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    They had the rug pulled out from under them,have pity,its a concept they have difficulty grasping :)
  11. aposhark
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    It is getting very tiresome :confused:
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  12. oss
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    Ok Mike, I hope all 3.7 million taxpaying contributing probably mostly "young'ish" European citizens get ejected from the country, probably a short term boom for various international carriers be they ship, train or air.

    And I hope all 1.2 million "probably" older retired and expensive to look after UK citizens in Europe get deported back to the UK.

    Then we can all be happy, let the walls rise.

    And I presume that's what we voted for?
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  13. aposhark
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    We managed before the EU, Jim, and we will manage afterwards too.
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  14. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    voted for kipeers and bananananas
  15. Markham
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    And you accuse Brexiters of xenophobia!!
  16. John Stevens
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    Remain want to leave a deal and leave just want to leave just take the deal on the table and everyone is happy:like:
  17. oss
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    Except that the hard core right wing leavers explicitly want to leave without any deal and they're the ones in charge now.

    Deliberate vandalism.
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  18. Markham
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    From the few recent polls I've seen, no deal seems to be the most popular option amongst voters. And if we do leave with no deal it will be because the EU is doing its utmost to prevent there being an equitable deal because of the amount of our annual membership.
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  19. PorkAdobo
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    Amongst current leave supporters, I agreed that No Deal is the most popular option. As to the country as a whole, I don’t know.

    I have to given the Leave camp credit for convincing everyone that No Deal was what they voted for all along.

    I disagree that the EU is responsible for the current quagmire. When the Leave campaign frequently stated there was no intention to leave the Single Market and we’d have a Norway deal (which many Remainers could have begrudgingly supported), you can understand the EU’s annoyance at how Britain’s crack team of negotiators have gone about business.

    The EU has to protect its own interests hence why the Irish border is holding everything up. If Britain wants to leave the club and welcome in dirty chlorine washed chickens from Oklahoma, the EU cannot leave an open border in Ireland. The backstop is supposed to be temporary until a solution is found. It doesn’t give you much hope that a solution is around the corner if we cannot tolerate this temporary backstop.
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  20. Markham
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    Thank you for a well-reasoned response :)

    But ...
    So why have both the British and Irish governments made it very clear to all who will listen that, in the event of no deal, neither government will erect a hard border on the island of Ireland. Also there is no incentive for the EU to agree to a permanent solution to the border issue, something which should ring bells and wave red flags; our MPs appear to think this.

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