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"Another angry voice"....

Discussion in 'General Chit Chat' started by Methersgate, Jun 28, 2014.

  1. Methersgate
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    Methersgate Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

  2. Aromulus
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    Aromulus The Don Staff Member

    A bit all over the place, and sometimes repetitive, but hits the mark all the same with accurate research.
  3. Maharg
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    Maharg Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Agree with the principle of the blog, but I'm pretty sure that if your kids are British then they aren't included in the income threshold increase.
  4. Maharg
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    Maharg Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    By the way, I discovered yesterday that if you join the army as a private you earn less that 18,600 a year.
  5. Anon220806
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

    Ironically too, I came across someone who was working for the NHS who wanted to bring his Filipina wife to the UK and earned below the £18600 threshold.
  6. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    It really surprises me that the UK Government can get away with this kind of discrimination, because at the end of the day that's exactly what it is.
  7. Maharg
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    Maharg Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Whatever happened with that high court judgement against it and the subsequent government appeal? Is that still ongoing?
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  8. Methersgate
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    Methersgate Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    I am also annoyed by the huge visa fees.
  9. Anon220806
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

    Thats what annoys me. By their own admission it costs half of the Spouse Visa fee to process a Spouse Visa. But I bet they spend all of an hour to process one. I think Kuya dug up some evidence to suggest that they spend very little time on each application.

    The other half of the Spouse Visa fee - where does that go? It means they make a "profit" on each Spouse Visa application.
  10. Markham
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    Markham Guest

    That's true, Graham, but you'd probably have to prove their citizenship by means of Birth Certificates and Passports.

    In 1999, a Fiancée Visa cost £100 or thereabouts. Both major parties are guilty of treating immigrants rather cynically: Labour believed they'd be so grateful to be allowed in that they'd become Labour supporters whilst the Tories treat them as cash cows.
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  11. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    I would really love to know how the Case Officers are briefed, what to look out for in applications and the like. We could do with a Case Officer here at BF to give us some inside information, a snitch :)
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  12. Markham
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    Tory Party's slush fund? :D

    The Philippines Bureau of Immigration is very definitely a revenue-generating arm of government and is set annual targets which it must meet or exceed; the Commissioner's job depends on it.
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  13. Kilo
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    As I understand it, this is a little like when at school two idiots disrupted the class, but the whole class got lines and were kept behind.
    The government didn't introduce this to get at British people whose grandfathers fought in the war, but have now committed the crime of falling for someone from Korea, or Australia or.......the Philippines.
    This is more aimed at a different group who have abused the system for decades, using the marital visa system as a backdoor way of bringing in extended family, and using marriage through arranged marriages not for love or anything, but as a reward to other family members, ensuring their daughters and sons were married off to cousins and favourites of the family.

    Of course, we can't discriminate against one group, and rightly so, but one group has spoiled it for everyone else.

    The fact EU nationals can avoid all this is just because it's impossible to apply laws to them, we can only apply these laws to British citizens.

    This law isn't being objected to strongly by the opposition, because it's very popular with the public, who immediately think of that one section. The public don't think of the others who are affected unfortunately.

    I have a friend who can't bring his wife here. Do I get angry with Theresa May, or do I get angry with those who have abused the system causing her to introduce this policy (And I've got a few friends in that community). I don't know what to think.
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  14. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Unfortunately you are right, when immigration laws are brought in to stop the ones abusing the system then the genuine visa applicants are adversely affected, we have seen this time and time again, more recently with the English test and the introduction of a minimum income threshold.

    It will only get worst not better as the UK government strives to reduce immigration and the closure of immigration loopholes, which the media normally brings to light before the government gets wind of it.
  15. Methersgate
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    Methersgate Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    Very nicely put by Kilo.
  16. TheTeach
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    TheTeach Le Maître Senior Member

    I am nowhere nearer to bringing Hanna to the UK than I was when we married 7 years ago! :(

    Al.
  17. Markham
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    Markham Guest

    If we're thinking along the same lines then that group is still a special case - even more so since last year as their visa are expedited.
  18. Kuya
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    Kuya The Geeky One Staff Member

    I've pretty much said everything that I feel about the £18,600 minimum threshold over the last couple of years, being affected by the rule I have felt the pain of being rejected a visa due to this weird and arbitrary figure. And even though I won our appeal, I still read on a weekly basis the heartbreaking stories of real people from all over the country denied the right to live with their spouses here in the UK.

    That blog (another angry voice) has a lot of good material from it's author. I've read a few of those articles over the last so many months..
  19. Anon220806
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

    Anyone able to help CampelloChris with his fiance seeking to apply for settlement in Spain? Looks like he needs advice on the EU routing.

    His question below from the tale end of his thread....

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