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Baby born abroad

Discussion in 'UK Visa and Immigration Help' started by bobby, Mar 7, 2015.

  1. bobby
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    My wife and I got married in the Philippines about a year ago , my wife gave birth to a baby girl (I am a UK citizen) in the phillipines, I understand that we can obtain a British passport, but what we don't know is how we go about to obtain one. Could you give us some information please regarding this matter? ( I am back in the UK) Thank you

    my wife is still in the Philippines too, getting set for her IELTS test
  2. Timmers
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    Hello Bobby and welcome to British Filipino, I cant help you with your question unfortunately but I think @Markham may be able to help, just wait for his reply, he lives in the Philippines so you may have to wait a little while until he replies to the post.
  3. oss
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    I know what you should do I but I'm not at home right now and typing on a tablet is awful.

    Will try to respond later on.
  4. Markham
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    Hello Bobby, welcome to the Forum!

    You'll need to obtain the following documents relating to your daughter in this order - you may already have some, of course :-
    • Philippine NSO Birth Certificate
    • Philippine Passport
    • Both of the above are required for the Consular Record of Birth which you obtain from the British Embassy in Manila. You will also need to provide the original plus photocopies of:
      • Your Marriage Certificate
      • Your Passport (certified photocopy will suffice as you are in UK) showing all arrival and departure dates and personal bio page
      • Letter from your wife's Ob/Gynae stating the date of conception
      • All medical notes from the Ob/Gynae, ultrasound scans etc.
      • All medical notes from the hospital
      • Copy of hospital's Certificate of Live Birth
      • Photos of you and your wife taken at various times during the pregnancy plus photos soon after the birth (preferably on the day of).
    • Once you have all of the above, you can then apply for your daughter's British Passport via the British Embassy.
    Unfortunately all Passport applications from 'abroad' are handled by one office, the Passport Office in Liverpool, which apparently still has a huge backlog, They are prioritizing Passport renewals over new applications and right now the Embassy isn't accepting applications.

    The Consular Record of Birth will be enough to satisfy UKVI and you will be able to obtain a single-use emergency Passport to enable your daughter to travel to the UK- albeit at an extortionate price!
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  5. bobby
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  6. bobby
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    thanks Markham for the information
    , could we get our daughter just a Filipino passport instead, in order for them to come into the uk?
  7. elizdave
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    Hi we Applied child british passport for our daugther overseas may last yr and until now still in security check its been 10 months already and still no progress we my husband contacted his local MP already but still same answer. .so now what we plan is to apply a dependant visa for our daugther to go back in uk....its really frustrating
  8. elizdave
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    I think they stop issuing ETD last october...
  9. Leslie
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    What does ETD stands for?. I have the same situation.. I am just waiting to give birth here in the Philippines this september.. My Fiance is british and after i gave birth we are going to apply for visa.. Do the baby needs to be british citizen before we can apply for british passport?. How long does it takes to get british passport?. I heard it's a bit frustrating because it takes a long time processing.. So is it better to just apply for visa with our baby as a dependent?.
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  10. elizdave
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    Its emergency travel document, we applied for our daugther may last yr and until now we're still waiting without any clue when it will be its already 10months now...its really frustrating and now what we think is to get our daugther a child adependant visa
  11. bobby
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  12. bobby
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    welcome to the forum Leslie, got a question is your man back in the UK? and will he be back to see you for the birth? If he can, it won't be too much of a problem, as both of you can provide the needed documents . If he is in the U.K he will need to send you his notarized copy of each page in his passport (a solicitor can do this for free or a small fee for him) and he will also need to post his long version of birth certificate. I strongly suggest to travel with the babies British passport, and not a Filipino one. If it is just him and yourself, he only needs to earn the £18,600+ for your visa
  13. Leslie
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    Is your daughter bearing your last name?. And is your daughter a filipino citizen since she was born here?. Coz i am also looking in my situation that my fiance might won't be able to come back during i give birth but if not, he will sure be here when we apply for the visa..
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  14. Leslie
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    Ye
    Yes he is back in UK.. We are waiting for 6months before we get the copy of his savings since it should atleast 6months savings right.. As far as i Know he said we don't have anymore problem with financial requirements.. So we just need waiting.. I'll give birth september and he will be able to get bank statement copy september too.. There is possibility that he will come back with all the documents with him but that would be after september.. We will have 2 dependents that time we will apply..
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  15. elizdave
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    My daugther is using my husband'family name since we're married, and yes my daugther is filipino citizen we didn't registere her yet in the british embassy because we're still waiting for her british passport to be release
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  16. Leslie
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    Are you still gonna wait for your daughter's british passport before applying for visa or you will just bring her as dependent?. Just asking coz if it really takes a lot of time for this british passport i won't bother getting my baby one since we want to apply for visa soon..
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  17. bobby
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    i think you have to wait, as on the official page I was reading, it says that they strongly suggest to get the baby a British passport, so we will wait for it. I will keep you all posted how we get on
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  18. Leslie
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    Thanks Bobby!. If they will strongly suggest then we don't have a choice but to get one..
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  19. oss
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    You can get a British passport for your daughter but as Markham states there are many requirements.

    My 7 year old daughter had a British passport for 5 years, it has now expired and we have not renewed because of the requirement to send original documents from the Philippines to Liverpool.

    Can I trust the postal service, between there and here, with original one and only original copies of our documents, answer NO!

    I registered the birth of my child at the British Embassy in Manila in 2008, the birth registration gets you a consular equivalent of a UK birth certificate, you still have to provide a lot of the evidence Markham quotes or alternatively you have to provide DNA test results, if you go that route you need to have accredited testing labs to perform the DNA test it is not cheap :(

    We went the DNA route, we had no choice, cost me about £1000 for a three way test, me, the mother and my child, long time ago,

    I applied for my daughters UK passport at the same time as we applied for the birth registration, that is no longer possible and even then although it was granted in one month they took eight months to actually tell us that she had been granted a passport.

    Ok that's all the bad news, the good news is that if your child is your genetic offspring they are by definition British, British by Descent, the passport issue is actually irrelevant, if you can get the UK government to recognise the birth then the child is British.

    If you can pass the consular Birth registration requirements then you are most of the way there.

    This next bit is my personal speculation, so please don't read it as authoritative, I think that if a child who was British-Filipino travelled to the UK on a Philippine passport but had proof of British citizenship then the British parent would be able to apply for a passport once the child was physically in the UK.

    I could be wrong, but I would rather attempt that than send documents internationally for a government body to then pretend they never received them (sorry but I am a cynic in this one circumstance).
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  20. Markham
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    Jim, I am almost certain that you do not to supply any original documents for Passport renewals - except, of course, the old Passport and a couple of newly-taken photographs.

    Just as a point of clarification, I am very reliably informed that the Manila Embassy has never issued a Passport itself but that all the applications were forwarded to a central issuing office located within the British Embassy in Hong Kong. In fact all applications continue to be sent to Hong Kong and from there go to Liverpool. The additional courier fees are payable by the applicant who must now pay four sets of fees instead of two.

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