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Discussion in 'UK Visa and Immigration Help' started by Timmers, Jun 14, 2015.

  1. Anon04576
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    Anon04576 Well-Known Member

    Yep reassuring if you know that the proverbial has hit the fan and you were to lose you job just weeks or months before. Something that none of us could foresee nor expect. Obviously theres the cost of the additional extension but that's nothing in comparison to the loved one going back home, imagine, unthinkable!
  2. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Lets hope none of us find ourselves in this position, at least now we have more of an idea what may happen under those circumstances.

    If we don't post about subjects like this we don't find anything out, that's what its all about here :)
  3. Anon220806
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    Do bear in mind this is the Isle of Man and not everything to do with Immigration parallels the UK. Though most of it does.

    Our Immigration officers seem a little more humane here. :D
  4. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Well, a little common sense, who would have thought it.
  5. Anon220806
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    Yep. He mentioned that a couple of times. He said that they effectively do not look for such a high income for those already here in Britain. In other words they would tolerate a lower income level requirement for sponsors for those wives already here and moving on...

    I sensed a degree of flexibility there.
  6. Timmers
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    Well that's good to know, I wonder if that means they do not look too hard at your finances on your second leave to remain.

    You need to take that chap out for a good drink and don't let him go until he has spilled all the beans, it'll help us with our new company :lol:
  7. Anon220806
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

    Sssshhh
  8. Anne
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    Anne Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Thanks for creating this thread, Timmers. You guys are right, we'll never know what's going to happen pre-ILR. Will definitely keep an eye on this. :geek:
  9. Dublin boy
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    I think the visa would be revoked and the wife goes home. The requirement is to prove you can support your wife as she can not claim public funds so if you were out of work yourself could you support her.

    If your job looks uncertain be proactive and put some savings by or if the writings on the wall take out a loan to secure the saving requirement.
    I'm sure we would all come hell or high water do something so our wife's can stay in the UK. But an interesting thread
  10. Anon04576
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    Yep. Ultimately the words of the officer are just that, words, not set in stone if you will. Can't always be preemptive at short notice though. Difficult one.
  11. Anon220806
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    I phoned Immigration as if I we were about to apply for a spouse visa. And then asked what would happen if I lost my job after my wife arrived and before ILR.

    I think if it was genuinely me in that position I would email them directly. My work colleague did just that over her difficulties that I referred to in another thread and everything, the responses were all down in print. She got a clear answer and solution that she was able to show me.

    But yes, as said earlier, dont wait for it to happen. Be prepared.
  12. Anon04576
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    Understood on the approach to immigration and definitely appreciated by us all here. It gives us insight into something we never knew before and hopefully this sentiment resonates across the water to the rest of the UK. I hope so.
  13. Anon220806
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    Also, sometimes our only limit is with our imagination. I know what I would do in the same position.
  14. Anon220806
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    This case fits into the above category....

    "Craig and Ga married in Warwickshire eight years ago, with Eli being born in Britain.

    The family moved to South Korea in 2006, where Darius was born.

    They returned to Britain in March and settled in Stoke-on-Trent.

    But Ga cannot apply for the new settlement visa because out-of-work Craig needs to have earned at least £18,500 over a six-month period to act as his wife's sponsor for the application.

    Craig added: "I am faced with losing my family because I can't separate my wife from her sons, nor can I take care of them while I'm looking for work.

    "They are set to be forced out at the end of this month."





    http://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/Milt...split-family/story-16920571-detail/story.html
  15. Howerd
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    Howerd Well-Known Member Trusted Member Lifetime Member

    The income requirement on subsequent applications for FLR does not apply to those who made their original visa application before 9 July 2012. If you made the original visa application 9 July 2012 or later, the income requirements do apply, unless for instance, the death of the British Citizen or the the British Citizen becomes eligible for certain disability benefits.
  16. bigmac
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    thanks for the link to this thread Timmers. its well worth keeping near the top of the pile.
  17. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Its an interesting topic, hopefully one which we will not have to deal with, unfortunately we never managed to get any conclusive evidence from the UKVI what happens, we did however get an incite as to what may happen.
  18. bigmac
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    the more i think about it--i think the £18,600 threshold way of deciding who can be a sponsor is daft. its a gross wage figure--and takes no account of the sponsors outgoings.

    indeed many earning more than that would find it hard to make ends meet what with rent or mortgage payments--council tax--travel to work cost.

    but i cant think of an alternative way offhand.
  19. Timmers
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    When you reach the ILR stage there is no £18,600 requirement but you have to provide information on your outgoings and so on which as you say, is more sensible and a better way of establishing whether or not you can afford to maintain your loved on.

    I think the initial financial requirement of £18,600 is to immediately discount the less well off from securing a visa nothing more.
  20. bigmac
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    another thought----why the need to prove sponsorship income at FLR--if the visa holder cannot draw any state benefits in the first 5 years ?

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