dual citizenship (British-Filipino) for 7 month old son

If I can hijack this thread slightly with a question?
If a UK national and his wife who is now a british citizen with british passport but is of philippine birth are in the philippines and they have a child do they have to go through the same processes as mentioned here from the link provided on the "gov.uk consular birth registrations" form? Just seems a lot of stuff and hoops to jump through when from a legal point of view both parents are now in fact british.

Yes because it is a birth outside the United Kingdom and although the child inherits British Citizenship, his/her offspring do not unless they are born in the UK.

Ok thanks mark

Cheryl sent me a PM yesterday to which I am unable to reply as her inbox is full. In it, she asked whether it would help her to obtain a Visitors Visa if her family were to transfer a property in her name.

Firstly, it's probably a bit too late to do that now and may be viewed by UKBA as a ruse. More importantly, however, is the fact that owning a property free and clear of any mortgage or loan does not, in of itself, provide a compelling reason to return to the Philippines; UKBA might reasonably infer that the property will be rented-out. She might be able to overcome this by entering into a contract with a builder to carry out remodelling and renovation works whilst she's abroad and use that contract in support of her application.

I think you're probably right about this Mark. Just having land in her name pprobably won't be enough to convince UKBA about her intention to return to the PI. But if she can enter into a contract with a builder and maybe even start building work anf have photographic evidence that should put a fairly strong case across

hi, i missed the birth of my son by 2 days, and when i registered him at the embassy, no mention of dna was ask. we also forgot to bring cenmor form with us,but they were really helpful, we had to bring it back up a week later. that was for the registration and a british birth certificate. but i have to go back again in november for his passport,so maybe they will ask for it??

EXACTLY MY CASE.

Both of my parents are British. My father was born and raised in the UK in Paddington. My mother meanwhile is a Filipina that got naturalised way back in 1981!

I'm waiting for my UK passport for 14 months and counting! Like wtf!

So many documents and so many processes! I went to Embassy in Manila before for an interview. It lasted for 5 hours!

And they asked me so many questions coming from five sheets of paper. Some questions were almost stupid and redundant, like spell your name and such when I already brought my Consular Birth Registry and other documents!

Do your children favours everyone and apply for their UK passports while they are still young, else they go through my situation.

14 months and counting!

Cant understand it Knight. Why so long?

My wife has applied for British Citizenship. It is expected to take 6 months. Why so long?

It doesnt take that long for this stuff. It must just lay around propping up peoples desks for it to take that long.

I have really no answer for that. It's a question for HMPO, Theresa May, Keith Vaz, and all those politicians over there. lol.

Here is their last reply to me on the 29th of May via email.

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Dear Mr...

Thank you for your enquiry.

Please note your application for passport facilities is in the process of being validated in the UK and overseas.

I am unable to provide you with a timescale as to when this will be completed.

Whilst I appreciate your concerns and frustration regarding the length of time it is taking to process your application, I would stress that Her Majesty’s Passport office has a vital role to play in protecting the integrity of the British passport, and our customers’ identity. Passports cannot be issued until all checks deemed necessary for a particular application are completed. Rest assured your application is being dealt with in accordance with HMPO policy and the legislative framework that governs it and the processing time is comparable to similar application types.

Liverpool Overseas Team Ground Floor

Third Floor

Her Majesty's Passport Office | 101 Old Hall Street | Liverpool | L3 9BP

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My theory though is it has to do with Philippines as a 'high-risk' country for frauds, like what an employee from the Consulate have told me. Also because I'm an adult and while I had a child passport before, it was never renewed. I have always used my Philippine passport for travels.

I think HMPO believes that I'm some devious Pinoy impersonating another person who is British by descent, bearing the same name, same birth day and same age, even though I sent them my childhood pictures and school records coming from kindergarten to HS, who had gone to Australia, went to university there and worked complete with file tax number and police checks, who also has copies of my father's birth certificate and my mother's naturalisation certificate, who also has baby medical records, etc..

I can keep on yapping about my frustrations, but what can I do?

I honestly can see their point about protecting the integrity of the British passport. But I just cannot see it taking that long to process. Time out between actual action on it, must be measured in months. Its not as if they need to wait for documents and checks to go by mule or sail boat. A quick email or phone call or two plus the odd DHL couriered envelope, should suffice.

You are right. What can you do. We just forget about the Citizenship application as there is no point in thinking about it.

Have you heard of the passport backlogs back in June? I was one of those reading the news and watching BBC and all that. All of it started when Theresa May and her party-mates, brought back all the passport processing powers back to the UK. Her reasons were to tighten UK security, bring back jobs to the UK, and save money that would have been spent at the embassies.

Before, the individual embassies could process a passport application by themselves. Now every thing has to be done in the UK. And of course, they give priorities to the locals when it comes to passport processing. They probably think that the holidays of some British locals are more important than the career and livelihood of some British expats I believe.

What am I anyway, just some '50/50' living in the Philippines whose British father managed to bag a Filipina? UK couldn't care less about that I think.

One country alone cannot process all passport applications coming from 196 countries, 7 continents. The British are all over the world now. Simple logic.

Plus, everyone wants to come here so the visa / passport system is overloaded.

Because the economy has rebounded from the last recession.
And inflation is low, job opening is abound!

They say America/US is the 'Land of Opportunity.' Well that is probably true way back in the 1950s. UK is the new Promise Land, in my opinion! hahahahahahaha...

Most of my Aussie friends are heading to the UK, by the way.

The curious thing, Knight, is that some of the British want to leave the UK.

I can understand if they're retirees. Take Philippines for example, if you're British retiree around 60 who has earned even a modest saving, it can be a paradise. The GBP to PHP exchange will increase your purchasing power double-fold. Buy a house in Bohol, Cebu or a townhouse in Paranaque, Manila and it will be a comfortable living.

But if you're young like me in their 20s, or even in their 30s, frankly I don't see the logic. If there are indeed young British like that, I would have to say they are wasting a good opportunity. An opportunity that lots of young Pinoys like me would kill for.

And go work as what? Waiter, Housekeeper, Kitchen-help, Front-desk, etc? I'm not belittling those work, don't get me wrong. They're all respectable jobs.

But what a waste of my university degree. What I have I toiled all these years for? Why did I work for KFC whilst in university to buy all those books?

Plus, I'm still a Filipino. Having a university degree would just lead to racial abuse by Middle Eastern employers.

If I work on those roles/jobs, I'll earn on average say 50,ooo PHP a month? Why do that when I can earn 175000 PHP or more in the UK and use what I gained from my university studies?

The salaries are much higher in the Middle East than the UK, my wife lived there for twelve years working in private banking earning lots of tax free money with a large chunk of money for accommodation and flights home.

And is she a naturalised British citizen back then? Or did she use her Philippine passport to get there?

I know there are some countries in the Middle East with high salaries, like Bahrain. But I have already tried going there. The only good offer I got was to work in front-desk for a hotel.

I want to use my degree.