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GOT ILR and planning to give birth to the philippines

Discussion in 'UK Visa and Immigration Help' started by Twinkle Searles, Feb 22, 2016.

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  1. Twinkle Searles
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    hello can anyone please help me regarding my situation here in uk.. i got indefinite leave to remain here in uk. i am pregnanat with twins and planning to go back to philippines to give birth. Somebody told me at work to give birth here in uk as i might be refuse to come back with my twins. im confuse and dont know what to do If i still give birth in the philippines how can i get visa for the twins and how long will it take to get the visas. im only allowed 9 months of maternity leave so i have to come back before that 9 monts will finish.. please help me ,,thanks
    Twinkle Searles, Feb 22, 2016
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  2. Anon04576
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    Why go back home? I think you're adding extra stress and complication to what will be a stressful time anyhow. Others will comment who have experience of this but for me, give birth here go home once theyre born. Congrats and goodluck.
    Anon04576, Feb 22, 2016
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  3. oss
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    If the father is British then the children will be British wherever they are born, but there is a delicate difference in that if your children are born in the Philippines they will be 'British by descent' which means they cannot pass their British nationality to their children when they have kids in the future.

    In addition the process for getting passports for the children or getting Right of Abode will be more complex.

    Your children will be able to claim Philippine citizenship even if they are born in the UK, you would be far better having the children here in the UK otherwise you are just creating a lot of stress for yourself and problems that don't need to exist.
    oss, Feb 22, 2016
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  4. Maharg
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    Agree with others. It seems a better option to give birth here.

    What are your reasons for wanting to give birth in The Philippines?
    Maharg, Feb 22, 2016
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  5. Twinkle Searles
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    my husband is british and he suggest would be better to give birth there as i will get lots of help from my family.. He's worried that when i give birth here in uk and he is at work i will be left alone with the twins. Still have 2 months to decide . Thanks to all of you who reply to my post. God bless you all
    Twinkle Searles, Feb 22, 2016
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  6. oss
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    Better to give birth here then once you are fit and ready fly back to the Philippines with the twins to get both a holiday and that support for the first few months from the family back home.
    oss, Feb 22, 2016
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  7. graham59
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    graham59 Banned

    100% give birth in the UK !

    Totally nonsensical to do otherwise.
    graham59, Feb 22, 2016
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  8. Markham
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    I agree with you, Oss, but which Passports should they use to travel, Philippine or British? I would recommend British which should only take two or three weeks to obtain but they will have to visit BoI to get their extensions of stay - and if they're here for six months or more, they'll require Exit Clearance Certificates for which fingerprints are taken. Yep, even for a baby!
    Markham, Feb 22, 2016
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  9. oss
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    British passports, I would have thought that Philippine immigration would know that children of a Filipino are automatically Philippine citizens.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_nationality_law

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    oss, Feb 22, 2016
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  10. Markham
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    You know that, I know that but I wouldn't bet the farm on an Immigration Officer manning a departures desk in Manila knowing that and one could miss one's flight arguing over any missing extensions.
    Markham, Feb 22, 2016
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  11. Timmers
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    You're going to have to be left with the twins sooner or later, just making it harder for yourself getting mollycoddled in the Philippines then having to traipse back home to the UK with two beautiful babies in tow, I do not fancy the uncertainty of the paperwork too as others have stated.

    She at home to have the twins young lady, you know it makes sense :)
    Timmers, Feb 22, 2016
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  12. Anon04576
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    Im sure you are already aware but there will have to be 2 adults if there are 2 babies as it is an airline requirement. Plus youre getting less value for your money with a single trip flight.
    Anon04576, Feb 22, 2016
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  13. oss
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    I think that varies with airline Paul.

    Here's an excerpt from KLM

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    I suspect that you could travel with twins with one of them in the cot type basket on the seats with a bulkhead in front, without having to pay a fare for the second infant, also infant seats are heavily discounted.
    oss, Feb 22, 2016
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    If the lady chose this way of doing things, then if she is planning to stay up to maybe 8 months she should apply through all the appropriate local procedures to make sure her children get Philippine passports as well before returning home. (I mean before coming back to the UK)

    But like others have said there is the point that it will very probably be better to get to grips with being alone with the children when hubby is at work, it is going to happen sometime, and it's also just the way things are here in the UK, it can be hard but with the support of friends in the surrounding community I'm sure it could be managed.
    oss, Feb 22, 2016
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  15. Anon04576
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    Ah yes. I thought it was accross the board. Last time i seen a girl travelling with one baby (had the bassinet next seat to us at the bulkhead) and she looked rather flustered despite the best efforts of the cabin crew assisting her. Two would be a real effort plus carrying the kids additional needs also.

    On the other hand and as you say under two's/kids prices have never been cheaper since last April's budget changes. We can effectively get two kids to Pinas for what we paid for one in Jan 2015, being charged just £50 each on the booking I made today :) In fact I have paid £400 cheaper today than I did in Jan 2015 but thats more to do with supply/demand/time before departure and all the statistical analysis that goes into creating airline prices. I'd love to see the logic behind that :D I'm wandering, sorry.
    Anon04576, Feb 22, 2016
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    Yeah it would not be fun travelling alone on a long long flight with two infants in tow, especially on very long flights with at least one transit point.
    oss, Feb 22, 2016
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    All that variation is a mix of the fuel hedges and the known seasonal travel patterns, and the weather :)

    I always found it strange that flights to the Phils are always cheap in June but quite expensive in August but it is probably June (wet time) and August (windy surf time), and November for some reason is always cheap as chips :) but late October in the Phils is expensive because of all Saints Day, a pity that as that is round about my son's birthday.
    oss, Feb 22, 2016
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    I understand why you wanted to go home as help will be readily available to you. Family would be more than happy to take care of your babies for sure. But you might want to consider giving birth in the UK instead. It will be less stressful I think given that you need to take care of so many things if you decide to give birth in the Phil. Another concern is travel - will you be allowed to travel so close to the time? Or will you be okay traveling for nearly 24 hours. It might be difficult for you and your babies too. Will someone from the Phil be able to travel instead to the UK to give you an extra pair of hands, maybe your mom or a sister?
    firew0myn, Feb 23, 2016
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  19. Micawber
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    I'm firmly in the camp of giving birth in the UK.
    The positives hugely outweigh any negatives
    Micawber, Feb 24, 2016
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  20. graham59
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    I have two (half-Filipino) sons.

    The first one was born in the UK, but first travelled with me to the Phils when he was only 3 months old... with his own easily-secured British passport. The first of many trips there, and periods of residence. Never any hassle.

    My other son, born in the Phils last summer will probably have to wait up to a year before securing a British passport, after his mother and I have spent a lot of time and money on securing the many documents required by the British Passport Office. :rolleyes:

    Of course that's not even considering the vastly superior and free British NHS...
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    graham59, Feb 24, 2016
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