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I want to know the right and quickest way to have my pregnant fiancee with me

Discussion in 'UK Visa and Immigration Help' started by jasonb1987, Oct 21, 2012.

  1. jasonb1987
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    jasonb1987 New Member

    my fiancée is pregnant and we want her to be here with me in London UK as soon as it can be but, she is from and living in the Philippines. Do i keep on with a standard fiancée visa or is there another visa to apply for? if its the fiancée is there a way we can make thing easier for us especially her because it looks like she may have to travel about in the Philippines to do certain tasks like english test and so on... is there anything i can do here to move things along? any places i can go to see/ask officials about this? please help.
  2. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    Wow talk about a hard question Jason, welcome here by the way :like:

    Fiancee visa is going to require a huge amount of proof of relationship, oddly enough having a kid does not count in terms of that proof.

    Hate to tell you but the chances are that you will end up waiting and paying for your child to born in the Phils, once that happens you will probably be required to provide DNA evidence of paternity by the Embassy in Manila in order for them to grant your child a UK birth certificate and passport however that is the good news they will accept such proof.

    After that you should think about going over and getting married, after that you need to think about the appropriate visa for your wife, none of this if going to happen quickly mate sorry :(

    I speak from personal experience, my daughter is British my son is not only because of the exact date they were each born on (change in our law), I had to provide DNA evidence at considerable cost to get get my daughter her British Birth Certificate and Passport but we got them.

    There are no easy quick solutions that I am aware of, I hope you have the strength to bear the long road ahead, it's not easy.

    Sorry to be so negative :(

    If your relationship has a long history you wil lhave a much better chance.
  3. Howerd
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    Howerd Well-Known Member Trusted Member Lifetime Member

    Immigration officers may well view with suspicion any application for a Fiancee Visa by a pregnant woman. If you are wanting to get married before the birth of your child, I think the only real chance is to get married at a civil ceremony in the Philippines and then bring your then wife to the UK on a Spouse Visa.

    They are my thoughts but I don't have any real experience of this. Welcome to the forum.
  4. Micawber
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    Micawber Renowned Lifetime Member

    Hi Jason, welcome here.

    Your question may seem simple but there are a number of diferent routes to achieve the outcome you want.

    The situation is not so bad
    Solely in terms of 'time' the most used route would be for your g/f to apply for the fiancee visa.

    Look here and make a review of what's involved.
    http://www.british-filipino.com/sho...ply-for-a-Partner-Spouse-Visa-Under-New-Rules

    The fiance(e) visa and the spouse visa have essentially the same requirements. However the fiance(e) visa does require additional and convincing evidence that the relationship is genuine, and also that it can be demonstrated there is an intention and plan to actually get married.

    without getting into the many details can you say yes to having a gross income of £18600 minimum?

    If you cannot prove that income then I'm afraid you'll not succeed with that application.

    There are other things you can do, so don't give up yet
  5. Micawber
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    Micawber Renowned Lifetime Member

    There's no evidence of that being the case.
    I've known many similar cases. Some have informed UKBA of their pegnancy some have not.
  6. Jim
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    You need last years accounts too, my friend's girlfriend had her fiancee visa turned down,
    Because he didn't have last years accounts. The embassy said, if he had £62,500 in his bank,
    That would be sufficient :erm:
  7. Howerd
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    Howerd Well-Known Member Trusted Member Lifetime Member

    Your knowledge on these matters does exceed mine, I know. But hiding a pregnancy would not be a good idea; I understand that TB screening tests, for those migrating from Philippines should come soon and that may well reveal a woman is pregnant and ECOs would get rather suspicious if the pregnancy has not been declared. A TB screening test may also be detrimental to the baby unless specific measures are taken during the screening.

    Although an income of £18,600 may be required when entering the country as a pregnant women, I think she may well have to bear the costs of any hospital delivery until FLR is granted. And in order to obtain FLR (almost certainly after baby is born) I think the income requirements will be 22,400 (for one child) plus £2,400 for any additional child if there was a multiple birth.

    I am not sure if these are factors that an ECO will consider in considering granting a Fiancee Visa to a pregnant woman?
  8. Micawber
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    Micawber Renowned Lifetime Member

    Howerd,
    I've taken the view that it's probably better to keep things as simple as possible right now so that Jason can start to understand the basics.

    I think you're getting yourself confused and that might create more confusion for Jason.

    Of course his fiancee is entitled to free NHS treatment the from the moment she arrives.
    She is intending to take up permanent residence and is therefore exempt from charges. All she has to do is register with a GP.
    Regardng Finance Requirements there are no additional charges for children who are British Citizens.
  9. Howerd
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    Howerd Well-Known Member Trusted Member Lifetime Member

    I do accept you point about the baby being born a British Citizen, my error there.

    However, I do know a pregnant woman who entered the UK on a Fiance Visa and could only get emergency treatment on the NHS; the birth of her baby was not classified as an emergency and she had to pay the NHS fees for that birth. Her Fiance is British and has always lived in the UK. The NHS rules are clearly open to interpretation.
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    I have now clarified this with my friend. In order to get free NHS hospital treatment she needed to show her Fiance Visa (a settlement visa) but this was only the first step. If she only had a Vistor Visa then she could not get free NHS hospital treatment, except in emergencies.

    But, a settlement visa was not sufficient proof that she intended to take up permanent residence in the UK, she had to provide other evidence too. She was asked to show that she had purchased a one-way ticket (she had not because return tickets are cheaper) and also that she had sold her property in her home country (she had not done this either as her parents lived in her home). She could also not show any attempt to find work (not surprising as she was pregnant and her Fiancee Visa did not allow her to work anyway). And, as she had no children, she could not show any children attending school in the UK. She also had no receipt for the shipping of goods to the UK as they had not yet purchased a home to live in and were living in a small rented flat.

    Even a UK citizen returning to this country, after living abroad, would have to provide similar proof of permanent residency (except for the visa of course) in order to get free non-emergency NHS hospital treatment.
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  11. RB2004
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    £62,500 is sufficient, that's a joke if embassy said that.. On our application we demonstrated £123,600 in bank accounts.. And stated that is equivalent of 6 years worth of earnings at £20,000 per year After tax! And far more than anybody is going to spend in 6 months supporting somebody and far beyond what their financial requirements were at the time of just somehig like £150 a week after expenses left..And they still declined it based on finances.

    They seem to do whatever suits themselves at the time.
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