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Discussion in 'UK Visa and Immigration Help' started by graham59, May 8, 2016.

  1. graham59
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    graham59 Banned

    It seems that I am entitled to Irish Citizenship (through my maternal grandmother).

    So, would it make sense to grab the opportunity to bring my Filipina spouse over to the UK without going through all the UK visa application nonsense ?

    Can anyone suggest what would be the best way for me to achieve this ?

    I'm just at the 'document gathering' stage at the moment (grandmother's birth certificate, etc).
  2. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    @KeithAngel is the man to answer your question, good luck and a good idea Graham :)
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  3. graham59
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    graham59 Banned

    Thanks Timmers.

    I await his advice then. :)
  4. subseastu
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    subseastu I'm Bruce Wayne Lifetime Member

    No idea on this but I hope it works out for you
  5. graham59
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    graham59 Banned

    Thanks . You can even apply online. Just need the documents for 'proof' first.
  6. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    Graham Im afraid you have almost certainly missed the totaly easy version which would have required renouncing British Citizenship and simply applied for a Family Permit Ive just got home after a full on 21 hour day lol will re=engage after i wake up
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  7. graham59
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    graham59 Banned

    No probs. I don't mind trying the more difficult route. :) Enjoy your sleep. :like:
  8. KeithAngel
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    Morning your Irish Passport will be very usefull if the UK votes leave you will still have the rights of a union cit to bring your missus and any off spring to Europe and to Ireland under there national rules

    If we remain and the British get there way it may be (no one knows for sure) that non EU spouses will be treated under each local member states national rules the UK being the most drakonian (there is a Supreme Court appeal descision awaited on this) so for example you could apply for entry clearance to Portugal who,s national rules were made to be equal to EU rules for other states It remains to be seen how this all goes and is unchartered territory at the moment , you can still apply now, if you are quick, for an Irish entry visa as a Brit or a schengan and apply for your Irish passport after you arrive and there is some opinion that if your missus is legally resident in Europe prior to any changes transitional rules may protect her status

    http://eulawanalysis.blogspot.co.uk/2016/02/the-draft-renegotiation-deal-eu.html?m=1
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    Thanks for that. I will need to do some serious swatting up on this.

    My main concern is that I do not really wish to give up my current home address at present ... which probably a stay of more than 3 months out of the UK would necessitate.
  10. KeithAngel
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    thats annoying 6 months ago you could having aquired Irish passport given up british and moved your missus directly to the UK for free, Andy Ram did this recently but it takes six months to renounce and that would be a leap given probable rule changes no one can say for sure Graham
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    Yes, a lot of uncertainty. Why the need to renounce British citizenship ?
  12. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    It was (and still is for a time) the only way you could become a de fact EU Cit without leaving the UK to exersize treaty rights and return to the UK under Regulation 9 Surinder Singh
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    Ah, ok. I THINK I understand. lol

    What a can of worms. :frust:
  14. graham59
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    I don't mind zipping off to Ireland for a few weeks, if it's necessary. I've got zillions of long-lost relatives there (actually, a few of them fb friends).
    I can get away with being self-employed , due to the nature of my work, but in any case, I reach retirement age coming September.

    Like everyone else I suppose, just looking for the simplest method of bringing my Mrs (and baby) here without subjecting ourselves to Home Office bullying and extortion. :rolleyes:
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    Yes, unfortunately I wasn't really seriously considering that route at the time. Nevermind. I will just try to make some sense out of current options that are likely to cause me the least inconvenience and expense. :(
  17. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    It might be worth waiting for the Supreme court judgement but I would get the Irish passport you never know Im waiting for the Scotish one:)
  18. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    I'd like a Scottish one, but I do also qualify for an Irish one on the basis of my Grandfather and Grandmother on my mum's side.
  19. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    Cant wait Brexit followed by Scotsgit:)
  20. graham59
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    First step... get my birth registered with the Irish Embassy. Lots of documents to gather. :like:

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