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Discussion in 'UK Visa and Immigration Help' started by stacey360, May 4, 2016.

  1. stacey360
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    stacey360 New Member

    Hi,

    I have been getting the total run around from the British embassy in Bangkok, and no other embassy will help.

    So
    I am British
    Fiance is Filipino - she has a child
    We are both female
    We met and live in Thailand

    We don't have a huge amount of savings and very little after we pay for all the application fees and weddings

    Her family don't accept our relationship
    Mine do

    We intend to marry in Scotland

    As we are in Thailand I can't prove income, my boss can confirm my job is open, hers won't.

    However, my grandparents have declining health, Thailand does not provide a decent education for my step daughter and I personally hate living here. I will not live in the Philippines. I want to return to Europe


    So visa application, I cannot get my head around it, the embassy wont help unless I pay them!

    So what do we need to do?

    Apply for fiance visa
    get the TB vaccine

    What else do we need? What documents do we need?
  2. Methersgate
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    Methersgate Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    I'm no expert. With luck one will be along in a minute. However:

    Have you lived together for more than two years? If so, then the "unmarried partner" route is open to you(it is really intended for same sex couples) and it may be better (and a little cheaper) than the "marriage settlement visa" ("fiancee visa") route. Having said that you must prove that you are settled in the UK and meet the income requirement (over at least six months) before applying. The proof of income over six months is essential. What this seems to mean is that you will need to return to the UK on your own and work here for more than six months before applying. The IELTS English test and the TB test will both be required and if you do select the unmarried partner route then you would also need to pay the IHS as part of the application.
  3. stacey360
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    stacey360 New Member

    We have not lived together for that length of time, we can prove 16 months. We were hoping to avoid being separated as the child has finally settled with us. But a few months separation is worth it in the long run.

    Thank you for the advice, you have been much more help than the embassy!
  4. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    If it is your intension to settle in the UK permanently then you will have to bite the bullet, return to the UK without your partner and child, find work paying more than £18,600 pa, amass 6 months of wage slips and then your loved one can apply to join you on a Marriage Settlement Visa.

    Lots of help regarding the settlement visa application is available here on the forum, take a look at the link below, it will give you an idea of what is required;

    http://www.british-filipino.com/ind...r-a-partner-spouse-visa-under-new-rules.5740/
  5. ChoiAndJohn
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    ChoiAndJohn Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Agreed. I feel that the only way that you are going to both be able to successfully enter the UK is as follows.

    1. You will return, alone to the UK and start work.
    2. You will need to earn more than the income requirement of £18,600 per year (for an application for one adult or about £22,000 for an application for one adult and one child).
    3. You will reside in the UK for at least six months before submitting the application.
    4. Your Filipino partner will need to provide a TB test and an IELTS language test certificate.
    5. You will need to provide:
    Evidence of accommodation.
    Evidence of income, payslips and bank stataements.
    Evidence of your relationship.

    Additionally, if the child is involved, you are going to have to prove that the mother has sole custody of the child (never married), that the father is not involved in supporting or visiting the child.

    This isn't a definitive list. Just an indicator. For more details there are plenty of threads on the subject. The application in question will be made under Appendix FM of the immigration rules.
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  6. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    Of course, if the child will come over with the lady from Thailand to be with stacey360 later, that will be another expense.
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  7. Methersgate
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    Methersgate Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    Yes. Double the cost (we've just done this!) and the required income goes up to £22,600 from memory - but no reason not to apply for the child as well as the mother at the same time.

    I agree with the others that the "Marriage Settlement Visa" (formerly Fiancée Visa) is the most practical if you want to start now - if you don't mind waiting another 8 months to prove the two years that will be slightly cheaper.
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  8. stacey360
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    stacey360 New Member

    Yes the child will be coming over, she will not be going back to the Philippines without her mother. I know it will double the cost. UK fairly know how to get money from us!!!

    The other option I was considering was a 3rd EU country, with us marrying at the embassy in Manila or Cambodia.

    I know you guys must all have gone threw lots just to get where you are but it just seems absurd that it is so difficult for a British national to have their family with them!

    Guess its time to job hunt... from Thailand
  9. ChoiAndJohn
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    ChoiAndJohn Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    As others have pointed out, you could try and prove that you have cohabited for two years. However your problem there will probably be one of documentation. Do you have joint bank statements and utility bills that span the two year period. Can you prove via documentation that you have lived together for an uninterrupted span of two years?

    That is why I feel that a 6 month separation and then application for the mother and child at the same time is going to be your best option.
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  10. Methersgate
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    Methersgate Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    Hi Stacey,

    The third EU country route is known by the experts as the Surinder Singh Route and there is information about it here and some of us have used it. K and I didn't, though...

    Yes, prepare yourselves for a long struggle...

    first picture, 2nd May 2011, Bunker Bob's, Subic Bay, Philippines

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    Second picture, 19th March, 2016, The Athenaeum, Bury St Edmunds, UK...

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  11. stacey360
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    It was not my first choice by any means

    I want to go home, I want my family to meet my fiance and step child. My Gran has early stage Alzheimer disease so it is time crucial really.

    My last option is just to go back temporarily then return to Thailand, but we would really need to prove that we would come back.

    Thank you everyone for reading and replying

    lots to think about
  12. stacey360
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    stacey360 New Member

    We have been in Thailand, the electric bill just arrives with no name on it. We have visa and work permits showing that we live at the same address. We have a registration certificate for the last year. We are not entitled to a joint bank account in thailand, wifi etc is all included in the rent. We can probably prove 1 year, we can also provide witness statements etc but that is all
  13. Methersgate
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    Methersgate Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    Others have said here that applications for a visit visa are very often rejected but it does have the advantage of being cheap, so if it is rejected you don't lose much. Your documents should prove an intent to return. Its not much but your fiancee can at least get to meet the family.
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