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Making a Will, Inheritance by foreign spouse

Discussion in 'Money Matters' started by johncar54, Jan 24, 2016.

  1. johncar54
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    johncar54 Active Member

    I expect this has been covered may times but I was unable to find anything when I did some searches.

    I am marred to a Filipino national, I am British. My wife owns a house in The Philippines and the plot on which it is built. It was purchased with money transferred by me from my bank in UK.



    When my wife makes a Will, how can she ensure that her assets in Philippines go to me?



    Can she make a Will in Spain which will have effect in Philippines or should she make the Will in Philippines ?
  2. Maharg
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    Maharg Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    I don't think she can. I believe foreigners can't own houses there.
  3. johncar54
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    johncar54 Active Member

    I am aware that foreigners cannot own land. So how can one circumnavigate that potential problem is my question?
  4. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    I'm sure that one of the boys that live in the Philippines like @Markham can answer that for you.
  5. Anon04576
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    Anon04576 Well-Known Member

    Im sure i read that children of filipino wife/husband entitlement comes before a foreign husband/wife. I must admit it was a few years ago when i read that so just going off my somewhat deteriorating memory here.
  6. Markham
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    You can't circumvent the Philippine Inheritance Laws I'm afraid. You' are best advised to bite your lip and write-off that money as a gift. Should she pre-decease you, you will not necessarily be ruled-out of any inheritance but you should be aware that her parents and her siblings and any children will take preference. You should also be aware that where there's a Will there's a Family and people you've never met before will suddenly declare themselves as "Family" and stake their claim.
  7. johncar54
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    johncar54 Active Member

    My wife dose not have any children
  8. Anon04576
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    Anon04576 Well-Known Member

    Yes. As Markham has stated and confirmed you may well be down the pecking order of entitlement. As crazy as it is.
  9. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    It is possible to make a will that will allow the foreign spouse to continue to use the property but as you live in Spain and are not availing of the right to live in the property I guess it would be pretty pointless.

    It won't be possible to force the property to be liquidated and the funds willed to the surviving foreign spouse, children come first and none of them can be disinherited it's a complex matter and as Markham says better to simply write it off as a gift to the family unless you wish to live there.

    However I would expect that a will made in Spain will be valid in Spain and would apply to any assets outside the Philippines, indeed even thinking about the legal issues of informing the appropriate people in the Philippines gives me a headache, it is a subject I have often thought about :)

    It should be noted that it is also very complex to will the proceeds of an uncrystallised UK Pension pot to be paid out in a foreign country something that worries me as if anything happens to me I want my children to benefit from the funds I have accrued.

    Wills where the couple come from different countries and retain an interest in the other country are complex to say the least :(
  10. Anon04576
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    Wills are for me somewhat a bit of a farce. Someone can quite legally cut a dependent out of the will however upholding that after the will comes into effect may well be different story. Someone contesting a valid will may still have the right to benefit from the will even though they have no entitlement to the will. Beneficiaries of said will have no option other than to concede and provide funds to negate court costs in trying to protect the will and its original content.
  11. oss
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    Under Scots law just like the Philippines it is impossible to disinherit a child, I think that simplifies things and reduces the chances of prolonged wasteful legal battles, it is not right for people to be allowed to attempt to be spiteful in a will by cutting kids out of it, but sadly that that is allowed in England but then has to be justified.
  12. Anon04576
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    Yep exactly my point. Theres no point in it being applicable in law if it will be overturned should the will be contested or if the will is blown by trying to protect it. It can be viewed as spiteful to drop siblings but people have their reasons. If a person has the fortune to pass on some estate for me they should have the choice in deciding who should be in receipt of it. I mean they have no choice but to pass a percentage to the government (exceeding a certain amount of estate of course - soon to increase) so give them the choice who has the rest.
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    Howerd Well-Known Member Trusted Member Lifetime Member

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  15. Bootsonground
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    Foreigners can own land by hereditary succession...Its in the constitution!!
    They also MUST pay inheritance tax within 6 months of Spouses death or incur fines and penalties..
    Clever eh!
  16. johncar54
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    Thanks for the info, but maybe I did not make it clear.

    My wife does not have any children

    She is illegitimate.

    Her father is dead, her mother survives.

    She has one sister living in USA who is the daughter of her father and mother,

    several half sisters, some the children of her father and others the children of her mother.

    Even if she cannot leave me the property, I believe she should make a Will in respect of 'the others' or the vultures aka lawyers will get everything. .
  17. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    I would certainly agree with that!
  18. Bootsonground
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    John..Read the info and the article in link below..I believe it will answer your question.

    http://goo.gl/zaaISH
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  19. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    The full text of that is what I was trying so hard to remember, that article describes things as I remember them to be since a long time ago!
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