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Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself' started by Matt P, Jun 28, 2016.

  1. Matt P
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    Hi all

    Im new here and just starting down the road to realisatuon that falling in love with a Filipino girl is a two sided coin. On one side, meeting the girl of my dreams after years of searching and the other side, the agrovation and unjustness of UK immigration.
    Any help and advice would be welcomed at this point.
    I have started my homework and have read countless pages and for our situation I feel the safest route would be the Surinder Singh Route. Im self employed and run a small business hence my accountant does his job well and limits my tax bill but this does not look good for me on paper, so partly the reason for choosing this route.
    Now here is a question i would love to know the answer to.
    I lived and worked in Poland back in 2010 for 11 months and had a residents permit now lost unfortunately, but i exercised my right to move and work in the EU so would have come under the EU rules upon my return to the UK. Could this be used, or would it be of any help to me that i have already lived and worked abroard in the past or is this now irrelevant to my current position with my fiancé?
    Could i then just go to another EU state meet my wife after we have married and simply return to the UK because i have lived and worked there in the past?
    Id love to hear your thoughts and if anyone is an expert in this area id love to hear from you.
    If anyone else here is going through the immigration process to be with their loved one I wish you all the best of luck and hope it wil work out well soon.
    Matt and Shiela
  2. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    hi Matt--welcome to the forum. there is one member who is very knowlegable about the Surinder Singh route--hopefully he will see this thread.
  3. DJB
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    DJB Active Member

    Good luck on your quest Matt and welcome to the forum. There are lots of very knowlegable people on here who are sure to answer your questions.
  4. graham59
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    graham59 Banned

    Welcome Matt. :like:

    A lot of us feel your pain. :rolleyes:

    Good luck. I think you may be right to go that route. Perhaps Ireland would be an easier place to set up shop for the required period of time ?
  5. Matt P
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    Matt P Member

    Thanks people if anyone in here is knowledgeable i could do with a chat and some answers to questuons i have.
    Thanks again
  6. Matt P
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    Matt P Member

    Thanks Big Mac if you cannpoint them in my direction id be very appreciative
  7. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Welcome to the forum Matt, @KeithAngel will be able to give you some good advice.

    Good luck :)
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  8. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    Hi Matt welcome, shocking the hoops we are made to jump through isnt it.

    The simple answer is your previous treaty rights in Poland dont help you as you wernt married and neither bagan nor continued to strengthen family life the UK have also "invented " CoL (center of life) which seeks to create traps for the unwary.

    If your going to use free movement to facilitate your missus getting here then speed is of the essence and you would need to spend 3-6 months in a host country with at least 13 weeks of "meaningful employment" or self employed the brexit vote has potentialy given a breathing space untill exit but no garuantees Marriage would be the first step
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  9. Matt P
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    Matt P Member

    Thank you Keith you have just confirmed my fears...maybe organise a linch mob for Terresa May would be idea. I fear another Margret Thatcher if she ever takes power :frust:
  10. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    If as you previously said you have a good accountant it shouldnt be to tricky to reset the way you take income to £18600 for this year from April its six months earnings you require you can show 2 months just four to go and you still have to marry the Lady
  11. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    I am self employed and only pay myself £320 a month as I expect a lot of self employed people do, its all about the dividends you pay yourself to get you over the £18,600 financial requirement.
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  12. bigmac
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    surinder singh can only work for you if your able to relocate and earn a living in another country. is it worth the hassle?

    if your self employed with a tame accountant it cant be at all difficult to adjust your earnings up to the required amount--even if it means paying a few bob in tax over a couple of years. but that will be peanuts compared to what her settlement visa will cost you over the next 5 years.
  13. Matt P
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    Thats an interesting thought. I assumed that the cost of the regular visa route was very high. I have read figures up to £6000 to get the final settlement visa. Correct my naivety on this matter...im new tonthis and the amount of reading ive done my brain would resemble scrambled egg. Also it seems that couples that have gone down the regular route experience many pitfalls with the uk border agency and are refused on silly grounds. And have to start all over again.
    I have friends in Malta so i coukd even stay with them for a 4 to 6 months and find some work either that or the original plan of Dublin.
    The reason I was thinking of the Surinder Sungh route was mainly bc once the requirements are met and you return to the UK, thats it, no expensive visas to purchase...am I way off here?
  14. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Do you earn £18,600 salary + dividends? If you do then you can just take the regular settlement visa route, no need to leave the country.

    Any help with the visa application can be found on this forum as most of us have been there and done it :)
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    thats not true. any refusal will come with a written reason--which can be challenged. if the applicants travel history is straightforward---i mean--not a known terrorist---then the most likely refusal is because of poor preparation--such as not correctly meeting the financial requirements--or inadequate accommodation. if a person wishes to gamble the application fee knowing full well they dont meet the earnings or savings rules--then they are the ones being silly.
  16. bigmac
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    yes--£6000---at todays prices. that includes the £1000 IHS surcharge ( NHS ).

    add to that--flights--wedding here or in the philippines--there are pro's and con's with that.

    the thing is--most of us here have been where your at in life. in my case--i didnt meet the £18,600...not even half of it--i'm an OAP. ( several of us are ).---so--it was my state pension--plus savings. in my case--it had to be about £42,000....which i didnt have under the bed--so--i sold my house--and rented for a while ( still am). that cost me about 25 grand in rent and selling fees.
  17. graham59
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    I thought the self-employed had to show a couple of years 'books' .
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  18. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    you may have a point there oops
  19. bigmac
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    maybe so--the current year--which may well be ending--then the next 12 months. maybe another trip over to the filis in that time.

    i'm sure true love will survive the test of time. ours took 4 & 1/2 years.
  20. Timmers
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    Its important to remember that £6000 will cover the visa costs over the five year settlement route as it stands, the initial cost for the first visa is £956 for the Fiancée visa, the NHS surcharge of course would have to be added to that if it was a spouse visa.

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