I don't give a flying t**s about what two consenting, same sex, adults do within their own 4 walls, or get up to, what winds me up is this latest announcement by some do-gooder without an ounce of brain to use MY tax money to promote and sponsor the practice of Homosexuality in places like Russia... I am sure Mr Putin will be well impressed..... What is wrong with our ruling Elite...???
Gay rights are human rights Dom. The appalling treatment of LGBT people in Russia should be protested and met with scorn and ridicule.
All i can say on political issues is run for a seat as an MP. Human rights issues I support to a point but anything that involves tax payers funds in another nation should be counted as "political interference". Where a private enterprise is A. using funds it raised itself and B. Non government funded or connected. So as a tax payer I agree shouldn't use tax funds for anything overseas that does not benefit the state or tax payer. But haven't seen an article on this to see how its funded etc.
I am not arguing the Human Rights lark............... I am incensed about not using that money for things of greater importance and benefit for the UK taxpayer at large. There are millions if issues to be addreesed here at home, without trying to alienate sovereign governments with their outdated policies. The scorn and ridicule can be orchestrated from the west at no cost to the tax payer.
Putin is attempting to protect Russian children from sick perverts, a credible cause. I seem to recall reading a disturbing article a while ago about a bunch of old Russian homosexual gentlemen campaigning for the gay right of underage Russian boys. No idea why the UK government gets involved in this stuff, at the same time it is destroying the livelihoods of people such as Dave Lee Travis for allegedly patting a girl on the ass 30 years ago.
There are far more "straight" paedophiles than gay paedophiles. Putin is simply an old bigot picking on a minority and clamping down on human rights like he did in his KGB days. There have been a few of these, think of NAMBLA (North American Man Boy Love Association) and some slimy paedophile political groups around the world (including the UK) campaigning for the rights of UK paedophiles to abuse kids.. It doesn't make it right to clamp down on the LGBT community. The answer is simple. Gay does not equal paedophile!
Hold on............. I didn't bring any mention of paedos into this............ It is the wantoon use of the public purse for the benefit of people outside the UK that winds me up........ If the gay lobby wants to help educate other nations it is up the them to secure private funding, and not rely on my/your/our tax money. We have needs in the Uk that need to be addressed with urgency and yet, there is no money available.... Where will it end, otherwise...??
Agreed. The Russian heteros are able to look after themselves, so why is cash required to supposedly promote Russian gay rights. What will they spend it on, rainbow flags and street parties? The majority of the cash will of course be swallowed up by the operating costs of the NGO's, like stonewall.
Right now as I type this response, money is being spent from the British public purse on financing private institutions to the benefit of very wealthy individuals (NHS privatisation, tax breaks, quangos, bailouts) and none of that money (or very little) benefits the average taxpayer. To put it bluntly, it is wealth redistribution on a grand scale! Go to your local hospital Accident and Emergency and you might find it threatened with closure or it has suffered from the loss of nearby closures. Meanwhile, that same NHS authority is being run for profit by a private company (such as Virgin Health) and closures are justified due to “cost reductions” but money still gets drained away for the coffers of people like Richard Branson. Go to any high street and those stores are staffed by people earning the minimum wage, often a little more than the minimum wage but quite often not much more. And those workers have to have their incomes topped up with benefits that come from the tax payer, meanwhile the owners and directors of the company might in all likelihood be based offshore in some tax haven or find other ways to avoid paying tax. Your taxes are funding MI5 to read your emails, text messages and scrape your social media data. This information is then compiled and analysed to determine if you might be a potential terrorist. Members of Parliament and Lords with financial links with large companies, make decisions that benefit the companies that they have links with. Often these will include some kind of tax break for the chosen company, at the expense of taxpayer money. All of this money comes from the public kitty, the benefits to you and I are minimal at best but probably fictitious. Our money is being squandered and we don’t get to choose who gets to spend it and what they spend it on. But none of that hits the headlines! And why is this? Perhaps it has something to do with the media outlets relying on the advertising revenue from these companies, perhaps it is because they have their own business interests with some of these government kick backs? Perhaps they choose to be too cosy to the politicians in order to keep “access” to them? Instead of this, they tell you how we’re squandering money on Gays in Russia. “Those damned Gays, they’re dragging this economy down”.. Now substitute the word Gay with Muslim, scrounger, teachers, doctors, nurses or pretty much any target of the press and you’ll understand why I’m not too bothered with this. Whilst I can see why people don’t like sending public money to overseas political problems, I’d rather spend public money supporting human rights than supporting a Billionaires cocaine habit. But alas... I’ll happily drop my support for sending money to try and support the “Gay cause” in Russia if we can all agree that instead of this, we will instead take in LGBT Russians as Asylum seekers. Didn’t think about that one, did you?
So how does sending British taxpayers funds, to support a politically motivated group of gays in Russia help with any of the problems you highlight Kuya?
It doesn't and at no point did I suggest so. As I also pointed out, if what happens in Russia continues, we will be obliged to grant asylum to any LGBT people who are being persecuted in Russia (should they arrive here). And so I ask you, which is better (from a British taxpayer point of view) the UK taxpayer supporting Gay rights in Russia or a few thousand Gay men arriving in Heathrow claiming asylum? The government aren't sending this money because they support the Russian LGBT community (per say), they're doing so to try and save money in the long run.
