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Past the 60 day mark..

Discussion in 'UK Visa and Immigration Help' started by court95, Jun 1, 2018.

  1. court95
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    Your right there are a lot of complex thing that would have to go into looking at compensation and no doubt bump the prices of visas up.

    But with the current way it’s in there no repercussions for the system it is now and I understand there a lot of complex things that go into process like this one.

    But until there is some or any form of repercussions to them it will be the same system to come.

    Thank you I hope so too coming on our 60th working day this Monday. So hoping there not much more wait.
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  2. Sanders
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    One way of dealing with it is for them to ring fence the fees until a satisfactory conclusion of the case. That way the monies remain unspent until a final outcome and would preclude difficulties in raising a refund.

    The problem is with the service. Those acting for and employed by the government need to up their game.

    It might help raise standards.

    Anybody used Premiere Inn? They guarantee a good nights sleep and do pay up where cases are genuine. :D

    I remember when my wife was waiting for her Citizenship outcome and ceremony, there were big delays. (I know Citizenship is a little different to a settlement visa as you other half is with your for Citizenship and not stuck in the Philippines while you are in the U.K.) And we had access to the British Immigration officials. They were very good, polite and helpful. I also met some of them at the ceremony and they were a pleasant bunch of people. This proved to me that a good service can be provided. I just think something falls down with the quality of service with mainland U.K. Immigration officials. Delays are acceptable but being kept at arms length and being kept in the dark is unacceptable.

    Good luck @court95 and @UKDJ and others, in the coming weeks, if not days.

    Squeaky bum time, as they say in football parlance.
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  3. Markham
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    I understand that at least half of those deported were convicted criminals and they should not be compensated (or allowed to return), the rest - some 31 individuals - are entitled to some compensation because our government acted in error. But I think that any such compensation should be to make good any losses they endured and should not be seen as any kind of money-making scheme.

    The taxpayer, no, but the cash-rich local authority and their contractors should. All the company directors, councillors and council officials involved, without exception, should face prosecution with hefty fines and imprisonment.

    These islands were depopulated at the express request of the US government which should be liable for any compensation payments.

    No, absolutely not. When William Hague, as Foreign Secretary, transferred visa issuance to the Home Office, Mrs May made it very clear that this would be entirely self-financing whereas before visa fees were so low that they didn't cover any of the costs - salaries, expenses etc. Although the fees are now eye-wateringly high and there may be an element of restricting by cost, most of the fees pay for premises, security, staff (salaries, pensions, expenses etc), fees charged by external agencies for background checks etc., etc; any balance gets banked by the Treasury. With immigration being such a contentious issue (for which thank Mr Blair), I don't think the public would accept a situation where immigrants were being compensated for having to wait a few months. No other country does it, so why should we?
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  4. bigmac
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    i dont think mr joe public would give a toss about these lengthy delays in processing settlement visas.

    what i really dislike is the fact that we dont know who the decision maker is. if the persons initials were included in the decision letter we could then see any pattern developing. as in our case--and others who are having refusals for dependant children. is it the same case officer ? how many case officers are in fact immigrants themselves ? how many cases officers now deal with filipino applications ?
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  5. UKDJ
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    Greater transparency and accountability - "Simples"
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  6. UKDJ
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    Just out of interest, what's the cost of a 'Same day' decision, compared to the Priority Service (£500)?
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    I recall a female work colleague of mine who had been admitted to Britain on a Fiance visa. She had an issue with the English language test at the point of ILR. And had to ultimately go for it a year later. I saw the dialogue between her and the British Immigration officials and they were very good - looking at the email trail between them. She still had to stick to the rules but it was the way they dealt with her that sets a standard that mainland British Immigration representation does not appear to have.
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  8. court95
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    Now that’s a joke...
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  9. bigmac
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    as far as i can decipher from the current fees pdf, settlement visa priority service is £573,

    same day FLR service could be £510....unless anyone knows different.
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  10. UKDJ
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    ... Everything has continued to slide downhill in recent months - except the 60-day percentage, which saw a slight improvement (60 to 65%) between March and April (70% in February 2018).
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    and whats the odds those 30 days 26% are easy refusals.
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  12. UKDJ
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    Thanks, @bigmac.

    I can understand why they don't give a 'Same day' option for Fiance(e) Visas... after all, the object of the exercise is to keep as many people out, for as long as possible! The Priority Service - as far as I can tell - is just a 'money-spinner' at the Fiance(e) Visa application stage. It would be very interesting to see a breakdown of the figures in @court95 's Post above, showing the percentages of Standard/Priority Service applications decided, within the given time-frames. I suspect there would be very little difference overall...

    (I'm glad I saved my £573 on not paying for the Priority Service at the Fiancee stage, so I can make use of it for the 'Same-day' service at the first FLR!!!)
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    That would not stand up to scrutiny.If the immigrant is legally here what difference does it make ?
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Have you seen evidence of your last comment?
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    I am pretty sure once youve paid your application fee it does not go up whilst you are waiting a decision!
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    when the priority service was introduced--beginning of 2016..applications were being processed in 10 working days---too late for us---application was dec 2015. however--we did use the same day service--at croydon--so she could get her BRP and start working. took less than 2 weeks to recoup the £500 cost. so that first FLR cost fee + IHS surcharge + same day fee + cost of getting to croydon. no change out of 2 grand.

    that day at Croydon UKVI ( Lunar House )----the entire floor was just for same day apps---and it was packed out--100's in there. took us 5 & 1/2 hours to get out.

    i sometimes wonder just how much revenue immigration fees bring in to the treasury.
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    i'll never forget that day.

    we hadnt long got married--and i was due in hospital for an operation. booked our FLR appt for midday on the wednesday. on the monday i booked train tickets from portsmouth to croydon ( via gatwick ). nice easy trip.

    next day--tuesday--heard on tv news southern train strike for wednesday--southern trains--so--no train for us. full panic mode !. we live on the isle of wight !--so--quickly booked early ferry for car--just what i didnt want. still--the journey was really easy--no major traffic jams.

    booked back on the 6 pm sailing.....but still in UKVI at 5:30!. hammered it all the way back---and luckily got on the 8 pm. i could have kissed that ferry embarkation officer !
  18. Sanders
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    Absolutely. Very much so. She showed me the email dialogue. I read it all.

    I personally had about a dozen lengthy conversations with British Immigration officials on various points and in every case they were easily accessible, polite and informative. It can be done.

    With my wife’s citizenship delay I spoke to them on several occasions and we often had a laugh and a joke about things. Nice people.
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    This I meant

    She still had to stick to the rules but it was the way they dealt with her that sets a standard that mainland British Immigration representation does not appear to have.
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    Easy. I know how she my colleague and my Mrs was dealt with. I can also see how some of the forum members are being dealt with. There is a big difference between the two, as in chalk and cheese. And the fees were exactly the same and the visas exactly the same. The difference is in the way the applicants are dealt with.

    I knew several days before my wife was officially informed that her spouse visa to Britain had been granted. I phoned the British Immigration officer up and asked how the application was going. She took the trouble to look us up. She located us, said we would probably hear in a few days and that we would not be dissapointed. No fees involved establishing the enquiry. It proves it can be done.
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